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Apple Terminates Epic Games' Developer Account
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Re: Apple Terminates Epic Games' Developer Account
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
I assume that the Epic supporters rather are hoping to get Apple to reduce the 30% on all transactions (or on all transactions of some type), not just to get Epic to be a special case. I'm not sure they have a case, but I think you're misrepresenting them.
Is their way to cover them selves in court. Otherwise it makes no difference to them. To ask for themselves or everyone
Well, of course; if someone is supporting a company's position because of that company's "character", that would be absurd indeed. Both sides are doing it for profit. That doesn't mean we can't support one or the other on other grounds.
Re: Apple Terminates Epic Games' Developer Account
#143Apple is a monopoly. When Microsoft was investigated and fined for anti-trust behaviors, it hasn't engaged in this level of abuse.
Might be an unpopular opinion but I don’t think they are acting to the level of MSFT in the 90s. What MSFT did would be equivalent to Apple forcing everyone to use its apps and not allow any competing apps. Also recall that Jobs was pretty adamant about allowing third-party apps in the beginning. Now, do I think 30% is ridiculous in 2020? Yes. But it made sense a decade ago when having a half decent working app almos…
But where is the equivalent of the browser-ballot screen? [1] Why don't we apply the same principle to the App store?
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#144What in god's name is with all the bootlickers in this thread? I have no love for Apple or Epic. But if this lawsuit leads to better treatment of third-party developers on the platform and Apple not being able to arbitrarily control what apps consumers get to download, I don't see why Epic is being painted as the "bad guy" by so many people here. Apple has been behaving in crazy anti-competitive ways (just look at ho…
They built the platform. They maintain the platform. They promote the platform. What's arbitrary about that?
I paid for my phone.
I can do whatever I want with my phone.
I don't require someone to tell me I'm not allowed to install or provide app X because someone somewhere doesn't like the idea of two consenting parties making an app transaction.
Re: Apple Terminates Epic Games' Developer Account
#145What in god's name is with all the bootlickers in this thread? I have no love for Apple or Epic. But if this lawsuit leads to better treatment of third-party developers on the platform and Apple not being able to arbitrarily control what apps consumers get to download, I don't see why Epic is being painted as the "bad guy" by so many people here. Apple has been behaving in crazy anti-competitive ways (just look at ho…
Honestly, what is the difference between the App Store and Target? Why should a third party (or court) have any control in what the retailer sells?
Target doesn't have exclusive rights to control the the way I accessorize products I buy from them.
Re: Apple Terminates Epic Games' Developer Account
#146What in god's name is with all the bootlickers in this thread? I have no love for Apple or Epic. But if this lawsuit leads to better treatment of third-party developers on the platform and Apple not being able to arbitrarily control what apps consumers get to download, I don't see why Epic is being painted as the "bad guy" by so many people here. Apple has been behaving in crazy anti-competitive ways (just look at ho…
Honestly, what is the difference between the App Store and Target? Why should a third party (or court) have any control in what the retailer sells?
What happens when Target is the only store that 13.5% of the population can access? What happens if it become 25%? 50%? 100%? At what threshold is it proper to put in restrictions on Target?
Re: Apple Terminates Epic Games' Developer Account
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Honestly, what is the difference between the App Store and Target? Why should a third party (or court) have any control in what the retailer sells?
Because you don't have switching costs if you want to shop at another retailer than Target, at any time.
Were you not aware of this fact when you chose iPhone over Android?
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#148Epic had a golden goose here that printed money for them.
Now they are shooting the goose because they want a bigger share of the egg.
The goods are all digital with no lasting or intrinsic value to speak of. The only reason Epic has the cash flow it has is that people don't fully understand this yet. Instead of riding the wave they are getting off of it.
Can people sell the goods that they buy from Epic? What will happen to these goods ten year from now?
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
people familiar with Tim Sweeny’s life and ideology know that it is an actual important issues to him that platforms be open. your cynical take is often very true but there are sometimes real human ideals behind things.
interesting, then, that he is solely responsible for introducing marketplace exclusivity deals to PC gaming.
Which doesn't make the PC a closed platform.
Re: Apple Terminates Epic Games' Developer Account
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
interesting, then, that he is solely responsible for introducing marketplace exclusivity deals to PC gaming.
PAYING game developers for exclusivity is much different than CHARGING game developers 30% of their revenue. Also, the PC is an open platform. Game developers don't have to use Epic's or anyone else' store to distribute games on PC. With iOS you have no choice.
> PAYING game developers for exclusivity is much different than CHARGING game developers 30% of their revenue.
It definitely is - one store, Epic, offers deals publishers can't refuse to make a game exclusive to their storefront which limits a consumer's ability to use a platform of their choice to purchase a game. The other, steam, puts no limits on where you can distribute your game (unless you use assets from Valve's own games, but I digress) and has done no exclusivity deals that would force a game to only use their store. Publishers are free to use steam if they want to have 30% taken, but otherwise they can completely forego steam in their distribution.