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World’s 2nd deadliest poison, in an aquarium store near you

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Re: World’s 2nd deadliest poison, in an aquarium store near you

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second deadlist in the natural world, not overall.

a person who was poisoned had an opportunity to figure 'oh i dont feel well', went to a hospital, made it to the hospital, and survived

the real deadly biological systems don't even give you a chance to ask if that is a missile coming over the hill

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Saltwater aquarium owner here-- I own many palytoxin soft corals and have never felt any danger whatsoever; however that doesn't mean you shouldn't be careful with these guys (zoanthids, palythoa, etc). I've never cut them open or anything, so I'm safe I think :)

Re: World’s 2nd deadliest poison, in an aquarium store near you

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second deadlist in the natural world, not overall. a person who was poisoned had an opportunity to figure 'oh i dont feel well', went to a hospital, made it to the hospital, and survived the real deadly biological systems don't even give you a chance to ask if that is a missile coming over the hill

This was explained though, he received an aerosoled version of the drug, which was a very, very small dose, and not directly into the blood stream. Dipping a spear into one of these things then poking a living animal and that being is dead, quickly.

Re: World’s 2nd deadliest poison, in an aquarium store near you

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second deadlist in the natural world, not overall. a person who was poisoned had an opportunity to figure 'oh i dont feel well', went to a hospital, made it to the hospital, and survived the real deadly biological systems don't even give you a chance to ask if that is a missile coming over the hill

"a person who was poisoned had an opportunity to figure 'oh i dont feel well', went to a hospital, made it to the hospital, and survived"

I am not sure what point you are trying to make with that sentence. That this proves it's not very toxic? We know how toxic it is. The LD-50 has been determined with some precision. What this would therefore prove was that his dose was low, which considering the suboptimal delivery method isn't that surprising.

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Saltwater aquarium owner here-- I own many palytoxin soft corals and have never felt any danger whatsoever; however that doesn't mean you shouldn't be careful with these guys (zoanthids, palythoa, etc). I've never cut them open or anything, so I'm safe I think :)

You may be interested in this guy's comment (http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/gj74k/man_cleans_fi...): "I was changing out my water and as being the usual idiot I am, I didn't condition or warm the water before dumping in 5 gallons of cold water into the tank. The zoos didn't like that and started squirting a long thin streamer of black tar stuff. I scooped it out with my hands to throw it away, a few minutes later I felt light headed and about 5 or so minutes later is when it kicked in full force."

Re: World’s 2nd deadliest poison, in an aquarium store near you

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Saltwater aquarium owner here-- I own many palytoxin soft corals and have never felt any danger whatsoever; however that doesn't mean you shouldn't be careful with these guys (zoanthids, palythoa, etc). I've never cut them open or anything, so I'm safe I think :)

With toxins this deadly you're safe until you're dead. Unless you're lucky like the guy in the story and inhale the toxin.

Re: World’s 2nd deadliest poison, in an aquarium store near you

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second deadlist in the natural world, not overall. a person who was poisoned had an opportunity to figure 'oh i dont feel well', went to a hospital, made it to the hospital, and survived the real deadly biological systems don't even give you a chance to ask if that is a missile coming over the hill

a person who was poisoned had an opportunity to figure 'oh i dont feel well', went to a hospital, made it to the hospital, and survived

This doesn't, specifically, mean anything about the potency of the poison. It means something about the potency and the size of the dose the guy received. There is a spectrum of possible conclusions between "huge dose and weak poison" or "tiny does and strong poison".

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