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Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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Re: Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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I think GenX didn't believe in marketing themselves. The concept makes this X-er chuckle quietly.

Funny things these "generations" are. It's just as if someone were drawing an arbitrary cutoff line every two decades, picking a random characteristic from the overall zeitgeist, and proclaiming it to define the people of that "generation"...

And people buying into the characteristics and tropes with shocking willingness

Re: Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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With my last address change, I used a PO Box. My current physical address isn't listed in the FCC database (or qrz.com) and I use my PO Box everywhere else. You can find past addresses easily but not my current. I like it that way for the very reasons you've mentioned.

I'm studying for my test and they warn you that having an undeliverable address could get your license revoked. I wasn't sure how seriously to take that one.

Well considering how seriously they take the chatter that happens on some bands (extreme profanity etc) I'd not worry about it. But, its better to be above board completely. Safest route would be to have a PO Box at a forwarder in another town.

Re: Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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post #53

A timely blog post for me: A close friend who is the same age as me (and an EE) has been trying to get me into Ham for over 10 years. I finally became interested and bought a $25 radio (BaoFeng UV-5R) on Amazon ... only to learn that I couldn't talk to my friend on Day 0 because 1. he lives >20 mi away, 2. no line of sight and had to learn about repeaters, and 3. I have to learn technical and cultural nuance of Ham b…

toy for analog protocol nerds

That's a great phrase.

Re: Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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There was a good thread on reddit about this recently and I firmly agree with this comment about how useless "spin the dial" is: https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/iatqth/a_lot_... social ostracization and penalty has its time and place, and this is one of those occasions. Same reason cars have number plates.

I hear you, but the flip side is that this is a hobby. I did not get in it to get mad.

not mad at all. My take is that radio is not an ephemeral medium. These transmissions can be slurped down by an SDR, recorded, stored, analyzed, tagged, fingerprinted, indexed, et cetera. By keying up you are effectively making a statement of public record.

At the moment there isn't a financial incentive to perform this at any reasonable scale, but this doesn't mean that it can't be done at all.

Re: Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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I saw this shared on Twitter this morning, and had some thoughts: While the graph is good, it is specific to the US and ignores the fact that a large amount of the amateur population is 50+ - the hobby is healthy now, but there's an age crisis coming soon. It doesn't really reflect the health of the entire hobby, globally, just a specific subset. Millenials aren't young any more, I'm millenial and I've held a ham lic…

> a large amount of the amateur population is 50+ Yes, and a lot of these folks take a "get off my lawn" approach to anything that's different to how amateur radio has been done for the last 50 years. Try talking up metro-wide mesh data network or using packet radio for anything other than APRS you get the "Why would you want to do that?" Once upon a time amateur radio operators MADE their own equipment: it was the m…

I’m not a ham but I totally agree with the old guard on rejecting digital. MAKING your own equipment is an essential aspect of why amateur radio is worth preserving — it makes the network very resilient. In a world where digital electronics become very hard to acquire, hams can still maintain essential communication by tearing out components from microwaves and landfills. No such chance if everyone’s dependent on RTL-SDR chips from eBay.

If ham radio goes digital then it’s just people wasting spectrum on something they could be doing on the Internet.

Re: Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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I assume you're being downvoted because of the terms you're using, but you're not wrong. Extra class licensee here. On phone (Single Sideband "SSB" or FM typically, for those not familiar with the terminology, where you use radio for voice rather than data/Morse) I've heard all kinds of absolutely reprehensible things. In one single conversation where a man was ranting about mask mandates, he managed to throw in dero…

Radio is public. These people need to be named and shamed. An automated system for recording and archiving these public transmissions with their call signs attached as tags would probably be a good first step.

You already have to drop your call letters every few minutes while you're on-air, by FCC regulation. HAM radio transmissions are also subject to FCC restrictions on "obscene or indecent" language.

If it crosses the line where it wouldn't be allowed on over-the-air TV, it's not allowed on HAM radio spectrum. You can report it, and with evidence it can lead to nasty fines and/or revocation of license.

Re: Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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One factor that I bring up whenever the “ham radio is dying” discussion happen is the FCC public database and safety/doxxing, specifically for marginalized communities such as Trans individuals and Black folks. It, itself, is creating a safety concern in modern society for people that may want to join the hobby but fear doxxing and harassment. If I give out my call sign on the Internet (or on the air) you now know my…

Why not exchange call signs in band?

Re: Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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> a large amount of the amateur population is 50+ Yes, and a lot of these folks take a "get off my lawn" approach to anything that's different to how amateur radio has been done for the last 50 years. Try talking up metro-wide mesh data network or using packet radio for anything other than APRS you get the "Why would you want to do that?" Once upon a time amateur radio operators MADE their own equipment: it was the m…

I got involved with amateur radio ~20 years ago as a teenager Handled radio traffic for various marathons. Was a bunch of 60-70+ people and a few teenagers. Got briefly involved a few years ago. Still dominated by 60-70+ year olds. Me and a friend in our early 40s were the “kids”

I got a technician license at 16 and joined the local club. I was surprised at how hostile the majority of the members were. Since I didn’t learn code, I couldn’t use the HF bands and talk to people a little more tolerant. I still have a bad taste in my mouth from the hobby in general.

Re: Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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post #25

Check out TARPN for an interesting usage of ham and more modern tinkering. http://tarpn.net/t/packet_radio_networking.html

Off the grid text messaging attracts young people into the hobby and retains existing hams, especially the young ones. This is a worthy concept.

Re: Ham radio is not dying, it's evolving

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I think a lot of young(er) people like me who would otherwise get into ham radio are being sniped by SDR. You can buy a $30 piece of hardware and listen to planes talking to the airport, see weather imaging from satellites, intercept and read pager messages, listen to emergency and police radio, listen to all channels of consumer grade walkie talkies, and also just generally see the invisible world of wireless commun…

Any recommended resources to get started with SDR?

I have a couple of NESDR Smart dongles from NooElec [1], that have worked very well for me. I run them on a Raspberry Pi 3 and pipe audio output to my desktop or laptop with PulseAudio.

Aside from SDR# on Windows and gqrx on Linux, there's also GNU Radio [2] and a variety of lightweight applications that can run on, let's say, a Raspberry Pi Zero [3]. Oona Räisänen has a fascinating blog that touches on digital signal processing as well, applicable to SDRs as well.

Me? No ham license, but that may come someday.

[1] https://www.nooelec.com/store/

[2] https://www.gnuradio.org/

[3] https://osmocom.org/projects/rtl-sdr/wiki/Rtl-sdr

[4] https://www.windytan.com/

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