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Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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Without getting into the details of this - yeah I disagree with it - but, Android allows side loading. Isn’t that what everyone wanted from Apple? On a higher level, what’s the problem and what should be changed? Google has a policy that people don’t like, Android can side load, isn’t that exactly what people want?

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Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

#72

Without getting into the details of this - yeah I disagree with it - but, Android allows side loading. Isn’t that what everyone wanted from Apple? On a higher level, what’s the problem and what should be changed? Google has a policy that people don’t like, Android can side load, isn’t that exactly what people want?

If you read HN you might know what sideloading is and how to do it. If you're anyone else and you even get as far as trying it (which isn't likely) you get a big scary warning about how obviously everything sideloaded is a virus and Google won't be able to scan it and you should use the play store (I don't actually know what it says, but the point is that it's a big scary warning). The point is that sideloading prese…

If you're anyone else and you even get as far as trying it (which isn't likely) you get a big scary warning about how obviously everything sideloaded is a virus and Google won't be able to scan it and you should use the play store (I don't actually know what it says, but the point is that it's a big scary warning).

So now you want both side loading and you don’t want warnings about the possible risks of doing so?

So on one hand you’re arguing that users are too ignorant to figure out side loading but they are smart enough to not download apps that may be malware?

It’s not like any mainstream vendors have had side loading and introduced a security vulnerability....

https://www.cnet.com/news/just-as-critics-feared-fortnite-fo...

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

#74

The rationale they gave is that hate speech appears on these apps, because some of the microblogging sites that can be accessed via Fediverse have this kind of content. Based on this rationale, I look forward to Google Play removing Chrome, Firefox, and all other web browsers from the store as well.

Haven't podcasts apps recently been removed as well? Something about it being possible to listen to stuff about covid on them.

Edit, found it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23219427

And well, they should probably remove the apps of Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, etc as it's plenty of hate speech there too.

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

#75

For anyone else concerned with the recent Big Tech censorship, people are actively building alternative social medial platforms and they are taking off. The RedditAlternatives subreddit [0] provides a fairly good overview of them. Some are rather extreme, others are more reasonable, but there are alternatives, and it's up to us, the reasonable people, to choose where we want to spend our time and money. [0] https://w…

Weird to see HN just four links away from 4chan.

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

#76

There was a thread on twitter recently about how app stores would have rejected the first web browser, asking what future innovations might not happen due to them. Guess federated social media is a part of the answer.

That was the original Microsoft vision (Blackbird project, MSN and other names). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackbird_(online_platform).

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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A reminder that F-Droid [1] is a free software app store that can be used to download free/open source software, including Mastodon clients. [1] https://f-droid.org/

A reminder that F-Droid banned Gab from their store.

https://reclaimthenet.org/f-droid-bans-gab-app/

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

#78

The rationale they gave is that hate speech appears on these apps, because some of the microblogging sites that can be accessed via Fediverse have this kind of content. Based on this rationale, I look forward to Google Play removing Chrome, Firefox, and all other web browsers from the store as well.

Similar things happened to some android reddit clients a few years ago and it was resolved by removing certain subreddits from menu of pre-filled subreddits. So maybe these apps just need to remove any problematic pre-filled servers.

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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My favorite app is Tusky and is still available from F-Droid [0]. I think Tusky will be fine since they block Gab and so they won't be affected by this ban. [0] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.keylesspalace.tusky/

Been looking for a good client. Can you disable the block on Gab? I know the place is a cesspool, but I don't like the idea of missing content because an app developer doesn't like an instance.

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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post #46

Without getting into the details of this - yeah I disagree with it - but, Android allows side loading. Isn’t that what everyone wanted from Apple? On a higher level, what’s the problem and what should be changed? Google has a policy that people don’t like, Android can side load, isn’t that exactly what people want?

Here the main issue complex is IMHO that a) the ability to access is counted, b) this is penalized despite the system shipping with apps doing that too and c) the policy isn't consistently applied. Roughly, web browsers, podcast players and Fediverse clients (and probably a bunch of other apps, those are just obvious examples) all fetch contents from a user-supplied source over HTTP(S) and display it. As long as they…

So what do you propose? Not only have most HN users been advocating that the platform vendors allow alternate means of installing apps and being forced to do so by the government, now do you also want the government to make rules about what is allowed in the App Store?
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