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Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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My favorite app is Tusky and is still available from F-Droid [0]. I think Tusky will be fine since they block Gab and so they won't be affected by this ban. [0] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.keylesspalace.tusky/

Gab isn't the only source of hate on the fediverse; there's plenty of diversity in the hate speech to be found on the 'verse.

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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There is probably more than what is being said here otherwise clients for reddit or 4chan would have been removed a long time ago.

I don't think there is.

This happens all the time--recently, a podcast app was removed from the Play Store because it could be used to listen to content which didn't meet Play Store guidelines. The only way to fix it is to post about it and generate enough outrage that Google hears about it and can undo the ban.

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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The rationale they gave is that hate speech appears on these apps, because some of the microblogging sites that can be accessed via Fediverse have this kind of content. Based on this rationale, I look forward to Google Play removing Chrome, Firefox, and all other web browsers from the store as well.

Well, we asked for this. We demanded Twitter and FB censor their content, we applauded Cloudflare* for deplatforming websites. Now those monopolies can use the precedent to control more of the web.

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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Shouldn't this policy apply to all communication apps? Web, IRC, SMS, and even phone calls can connect you with a hate speech provider if you know the right address to dial. This sets a dangerous precedent and highlights why we should continue removing Google/etc as dependencies in our lives.

Don't make the mistake of believing that systems run by human beings are required to be logically consistent.

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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Without getting into the details of this - yeah I disagree with it - but, Android allows side loading. Isn’t that what everyone wanted from Apple? On a higher level, what’s the problem and what should be changed? Google has a policy that people don’t like, Android can side load, isn’t that exactly what people want?

Here the main issue complex is IMHO that a) the ability to access is counted, b) this is penalized despite the system shipping with apps doing that too and c) the policy isn't consistently applied.

Roughly, web browsers, podcast players and Fediverse clients (and probably a bunch of other apps, those are just obvious examples) all fetch contents from a user-supplied source over HTTP(S) and display it. As long as they are not specifically promoting "banned" sites, they should all be treated the same in that regard.

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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The rationale they gave is that hate speech appears on these apps, because some of the microblogging sites that can be accessed via Fediverse have this kind of content. Based on this rationale, I look forward to Google Play removing Chrome, Firefox, and all other web browsers from the store as well.

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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post #43

The rationale they gave is that hate speech appears on these apps, because some of the microblogging sites that can be accessed via Fediverse have this kind of content. Based on this rationale, I look forward to Google Play removing Chrome, Firefox, and all other web browsers from the store as well.

Well, we asked for this. We demanded Twitter and FB censor their content, we applauded Cloudflare* for deplatforming websites. Now those monopolies can use the precedent to control more of the web.

*Cloudflare

Re: Google is apparently taking down all/most Fediverse apps from the Play Store

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Does anyone know the US case law on the 1st amendment being applied to corporate actors? I see the argument often that things like this are a free speech violation but the 1st amendment says “Congress shall pass no law...”. It doesn’t apply to actors other than the state. I’m not defending Google’s actions here but I also don’t think it’s technically a free speech violation at least as the amendment is written, so I’…

None, the Constitution only limits the power of the government, not private organizations.
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