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Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by mc32 »

gigatexal wrote: post #72
abc-xyz wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m voting and campaigning for politicians that I might disagree with on 99% of all issues for the sole reason that they’re willing and capable of standing up to China. For reference, my views are aligned with Sanders but I’d vote for Trump solely based on his actions towards China. I’d also say boycotting Made in China and companies kowtowing to China isn’t as difficult as people say. You might not be able to boycot…

Wow. So China’s so big of an existential threat that you’ll let one of the worst presidents in history have another 4 years to continue screwing the country? Trump’s going to win again smh.

I'm a lowercase independent—for the life of me, why did the Democrat party choose the worst candidate of the lot two campaigns in a row?

Biden has tons of baggage. If he had an (R) next to his name and nothing else in life different he’d be getting creamed for all his previous policies, stances and quotes. In addition, mentally he’s not lasting four years of intense presidential demands.

In 2016 Clinton was Bush heavy (or comparatively Bush would be Clinton lite)

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by xupybd »

christophilus wrote: post #46
smhost wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Americans killed a million muslims and destroyed their homeland. China imprisoned a million muslims and put them in factories. Stop being so dramatic.

It’s almost like more than one country can do horrible things. Who’d have thought? It doesn’t make the situation in China any better to point out that other countries have also done bad things.

Yes but America did that to foreign people during war. Its something else when a government does this to its own people.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by ericmay »

Darmody wrote: post #10
TheUndead96 wrote: post #2

To those that believe that they would not have turned a blind eye during WWII to the systematic extermination of Jews, the current generation has been given a similar challenge. Where is your cancel-culture now? How will our children think of us?

Some of us don't have much power. I denounced it online several times, that's all I can do. People like Lebron James, who thinks of himself like a freedom fighter, when he criticized China he ended up saying he was misinformed and he wasn't educated about the issue. He loves the money coming from China more than anything else. I want him to be reminded by this. He put his millions before human lives, just like some n…

> I denounced it online several times, that's all I can do.

You can do more. Write your representatives. Call their offices (both Democrat and Republican), and buy fewer Chinese products, even it costs more money.

Please keep in mind I'm not criticizing you here, just saying you could literally do more if you wanted to.

I do get annoyed with people who "complain online'. That's just a waste of time. Call your representatives. They will respond to thousands of phone calls from constituents saying "do X".

For some reason we think Facebook is our democracy, not our elected representatives.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by pototo666 »

I am a Chinese. I don't think anyone outside Xin Jiang knows any details about these.

My wife is from Xin Jiang. She is not Uighurs. I have been to Xin Jiang. I don't think non-Uighurs in Xin Jiang knows the details about these.

They are like secrets. You know something is happening. But you don't know what exactly is happening.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by aberseti »

nedsma wrote: post #89

John Oliver recently made a episode on the subject (China & Uighurs: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17oCQakzIl8 The Communist Party of China (CPC) are running sinicization and antireligious campaigns of ethnic and religious minorities. The totalitarian and authoritarian countries don't make good neighbors. China will be making inroads into Taiwan soon if the world does not a…

China is already more powerful than most of the world. The uphill battle that lies ahead will be way harder than dealing with nazis.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by maskedinvader »

Darmody wrote: post #18
grugagag wrote: post #15

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We all have power though very little but we do. Unfortunately it is scattered. The more people care about the issue the more visible it will become

That's why I don't shut up.

Absolutely , I cannot agree more about using the little power we have to bring about change. I cannot be in the wrong side of history on this.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by abc-xyz »

gigatexal wrote: post #72
abc-xyz wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m voting and campaigning for politicians that I might disagree with on 99% of all issues for the sole reason that they’re willing and capable of standing up to China. For reference, my views are aligned with Sanders but I’d vote for Trump solely based on his actions towards China. I’d also say boycotting Made in China and companies kowtowing to China isn’t as difficult as people say. You might not be able to boycot…

Wow. So China’s so big of an existential threat that you’ll let one of the worst presidents in history have another 4 years to continue screwing the country? Trump’s going to win again smh.

Yeah, I’m afraid so. I wish liberal politicians were willing to stand up to China, and I try to encourage them to do so. But at the moment I’m unfortunately stuck supporting people like Trump.

At the end of the day it boils down to how much damage is Trump and other conservatives able to inflict compared to the CCP. I’m pro immigration, privacy, eu, choice, police-reforms, etc. my views are very much aligned with what you see in Scandinavia.. but at the end of the day, I see CCP as the greatest threat that the world is facing, and I feel voting against all my beliefs to help stop them is a necessary sacrifice.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by joelbluminator »

pinkfoot wrote: post #51
submeta wrote: post #31

My heart bleeds hearing about Uighurs suffering. And I welcome these kinds of posts. At the same time I am wondering why news about Palestinians are flagged and filtered away on HN. I read Haaretz on a daily basis, and what I read about this corner of the world makes me lose my faith in humanity.

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I'm all for it. And also boycott most muslim countries for their despicable treatment of women and gays (or other minorities like Christian or Shiites etc)

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by aberseti »

mola wrote: post #49

Just buy less. Western consumerism gave China it's power. Have a leader who the world believe he acts in good faith regarding ideals, and not busy subverting ideals for game and profit. But no, you'll choose power and war.

Smart conclusion, but if you take it a bit further you'd realise that it's way easier to make businesses stop buying from china through the power of one small group of people (the government) rather than trying and failing to get 300 million people to stop buying things.

Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs

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Post by unionpivo »

lordnacho wrote: post #83
mrpopo wrote: post #29

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> I denounced it online several times, that's all I can do. You can talk to your representatives about it. You can start actively boycotting Chinese-made products (not so easy, I know). You can donate to NGOs such as the UHRP (Uyghur Human Rights Project). You can follow them on Twitter. It's not like Lebron James will solve this either, so don't blame it on him.

Why have you decided to boycott Chinese products? There's a billion people there, and most of them have nothing to do with the government. They just want to sell toys or computers or whatever it is, in order to be able to eat. I don't boycott Apple just because the country they are based in (according to the note in the box) has committed some crimes over the years. And in the US people at least ostensibly have the r…

> There's a billion people there, and most of them have nothing to do with the government.

Because that billion people there is the only one who can change the government.

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