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Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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So I guess companies will now fill the entire global sky with thousands of sats just to make up for the fact that the US government ignores rural houses when it comes to digital infrastructure? I'm sorry but how is 42Mbps worth spamming the entire nightsky with to the point that it prevent astronomers from obtaining useful data? Not even 10Mbps upload? My inlaws live in a village in France that has 70 people total. I…

I think we're going to see some pretty awesome, in the true sense of the word, activism on this one.

Hacked sats. Pirate-style space cleanup sats. It's gonna make an excellent Wired article.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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So I guess companies will now fill the entire global sky with thousands of sats just to make up for the fact that the US government ignores rural houses when it comes to digital infrastructure? I'm sorry but how is 42Mbps worth spamming the entire nightsky with to the point that it prevent astronomers from obtaining useful data? Not even 10Mbps upload? My inlaws live in a village in France that has 70 people total. I…

You are ignoring millions of people in rural Asia and Africa who don't have internet connection, or a spotty 3g/4g connection for internet. Satellite internet is legitimate use case for these people. Starlink might be too costly for most of them, but some other satellite internet company might cater to them.

I'm looking forward to seeing StarLink go up against the Great Firewall. Although Tesla is booming in China right now, so the CCP would probably just retaliate for making service available to Chinese citizens by going after Musk's other company.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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So I guess companies will now fill the entire global sky with thousands of sats just to make up for the fact that the US government ignores rural houses when it comes to digital infrastructure? I'm sorry but how is 42Mbps worth spamming the entire nightsky with to the point that it prevent astronomers from obtaining useful data? Not even 10Mbps upload? My inlaws live in a village in France that has 70 people total. I…

Imagine being so full of yourself that you forget that literally half of the planet is not connected to the internet in any way whatsoever. The world isn't the States.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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But are all villages in France like that? I doubt it. Even in Norway there are thousands of people without access to sufficiently fast broadband, and some 80k DSL customers who apparently will never get fiber at all. The proposed solution for the latter is to use 4G/5G, which comes with its own issues of course. I'd say even in well developed countries, Starlink is a nice option to have. As I understand it, the 42Mbp…

Yes I think all French villages have at least super fast ADSL. The US is much larger than France of course, but whatever the reason, it's incredible and really upsetting that they can pollute the earth like this, and for the rest of eternity, just to solve a temporary domestic problem.

ADSL and super-fast don't go together as adjectives. ADSL is by far now a legacy technology.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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The latest generation of Starlink satellites is invisible to the naked eye once fully raised to full height in a couple of months. The impact on astronomers is real, but very small. OTOH, the benefit is the ability to participate in the modern economy. Cost/benefit to the world seems pretty clear to me.

Seems to weigh on the side of not interfering with astronomy, given that we have plenty of alternative options for accessing the internet.

Why? That's not obvious at all. The internet is useful, even essential for many modern economic activities. Modern astronomy is useful for what, exactly? Learning things about objects that are physically impossible to reach?

Ask almost anyone what they care about most, the internet or a book on astronomy, and they'll think you're joking.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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So I guess companies will now fill the entire global sky with thousands of sats just to make up for the fact that the US government ignores rural houses when it comes to digital infrastructure? I'm sorry but how is 42Mbps worth spamming the entire nightsky with to the point that it prevent astronomers from obtaining useful data? Not even 10Mbps upload? My inlaws live in a village in France that has 70 people total. I…

Living in Vienna, Austria, I can give at least 4 locations in the inner city which don't receive even this speed of connection even though the city promised to roll out fiber 15ish years ago. Then our telecom became privatized and now we are stuck with 40/10 (on good days) DSL connections because no matter how often I call and ask for them to do something about it, they push a hybrid DSL/LTE Modem on me which isn't significantly faster.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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It’s better than what most of the US has (by land not people)

I would guess the same for the UK - certainly for Scotland :-( Edit: Surprisingly little of the UK is actually built up areas: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/land-cover-atlas-uk-1.74...

That really is surprising considering it’s just an island (or a few islands? I can never remember wether Ireland/isle of man is included.) It’s weird how expensive housing can get when there’s so much empty space.

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I would guess the same for the UK - certainly for Scotland :-( Edit: Surprisingly little of the UK is actually built up areas: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/land-cover-atlas-uk-1.74...

That really is surprising considering it’s just an island (or a few islands? I can never remember wether Ireland/isle of man is included.) It’s weird how expensive housing can get when there’s so much empty space.

Part of the island of Ireland, Northern Ireland, is part of the UK the rest being the Republic of Ireland (which everyone not in NI refers to as just Ireland).

The Isle of Man isn't part of the UK, though it is a Crown Dependency.

This is all just as confusing as it sounds...

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The latest generation of Starlink satellites is invisible to the naked eye once fully raised to full height in a couple of months. The impact on astronomers is real, but very small. OTOH, the benefit is the ability to participate in the modern economy. Cost/benefit to the world seems pretty clear to me.

Seems to weigh on the side of not interfering with astronomy, given that we have plenty of alternative options for accessing the internet.

But it doesn't significantly interfere with astronomy.
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