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Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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Re: Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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Fossil fuels are a finite and dwindling resource, and its use is possibly causing an extinction event. The human race can't really afford to buy the cheaper option here.

An alternative to that is to sit and do nothing.

Yes, that is an alternative, but probably a better alternative is to invest in nuclear/renewable energy research. Which is what he is doing.

Re: Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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post #57

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People don't want to hear this but Windows in 2020 is probably more reliable than desktop Linux. Windows isn't what it used to be in 1999. And desktop Linux QA standards are nothing to write home about, unfortunately.

Hmmmm.. yes it is probably more reliable as a desktop with equivalent features. When running a simple tiled WM Linux is solid. If you look at the wider eco system, Windows doesn't look so hot. I've just moved from a Linux based work place to a Windows based work place. The number of times the main file server has to be restarted because it's doing something weird is crazy. This never happened at my old job. The Linux…

Yeah, but you're talking about Windows server and I was talking about Windows desktop :-)

Re: Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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Because you do not get to be a billionaire by pissing away all of your money on a fool's errand. Fusion is a black hole of broken promises that will not delivery a single watt of useful energy to consumers in your lifetime and additional funding from Gates won't change this. Fission works. Fission delivers today. Fission gets the job done. Making fission cheaper, easier to deploy, and safer will have a much bigger im…

Becoming a billionaire and trying to push the envelope are different activities, although sometimes they align. And as you describe, when a guy catches some important near term thing that nobody sees - that's where he finds billions. But the unreachable areas are sometimes not that unreachable. Look at the space industry companies. If you ignore the flagship ones that popped up in a scale of mere years then moving ou…

The problem is urgency and we don't have an enough amount of uncertainty budget to chase fusion reactors. The scale of the problem is so huge that even Bill's fortune could be insufficient to make a dent to the problem in a foreseeable future. Yes, it'd be nice if Bill can make it happen but if not, he's going to regret it. I'm pretty sure that Bill already has done the math, concluded that we probably have only less than 10 years and next-gen nuclear fission reactor is the only feasible mid-term technology to fight against climate change.

Re: Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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People don't want to hear this but Windows in 2020 is probably more reliable than desktop Linux. Windows isn't what it used to be in 1999. And desktop Linux QA standards are nothing to write home about, unfortunately.

They have improved a lot, but there are still the forced restarts, as well as the poor document recovery of the office suite. Together this is a bad combo as I'm constantly worried I might have lost some data in the documents I work on. They have improved the document recovery quite a lot in the last two years, but they still manage to make the process rather confusing, so sometimes I accidentally save the version wi…

The forced restarts are a bit annoying but you can schedule them and for the Office part, you can just run LibreOffice on Windows.

Re: Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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Windows is reliable for general public.

People don't want to hear this but Windows in 2020 is probably more reliable than desktop Linux. Windows isn't what it used to be in 1999. And desktop Linux QA standards are nothing to write home about, unfortunately.

I cannot even configure a printer on Windows 10 reliably. Out of ten ways to set the color mode only one correctly reported that it was overridden "somewhere else". I still do not know where that "somewhere else" is, as a result it only prints black and white when you access it from windows. I tried to uninstall the printer, install the most recent drivers (which only added cloud services) and went through all dialogues and settings I could find. Never had that much hassle with a printer on Linux.

Re: Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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Intermittent sources are usually quoted as peak. That is multiplied by a typical capacity factor to determine average load. For offshore wind, 60% is a reasonable number I think.

Seems to be more like 40% [1] and it's worth noting that in a lot of geographies you still need full backup for wind farms as the wind speed can drop low across the whole country/continent. [1] - https://energynumbers.info/uk-offshore-wind-capacity-factors

40% is kind of an average of already installed offshore wind project, some having been installed 10 years ago... In wind project in general we've seen a continuous trend of spectacular increase in capacity factor [1], and 40% capacity factor can be expected from a US onshore wind project now... 60% average seems high right now (not in the future) and depend on geographies though

Of course managing intermittence is not easy and free, but nobody is talking about a 100% wind-power grid, and the current installations can absorb a fair amount of intermittence with extra investment... And wind and solar are becoming so cheap that you have a lot of space to pay for managing intermittence - that can be using differently the current installations, developing a demand-response market, and doing some thermal and electrical storage...

[1] see for example https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.ph... keeping in mind the average capacity factor include older equipment with low capacity factor... and that offshore wind is "just starting"

Re: Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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I thought about this quite often. I do think one of the biggest possible changes could be a new religion based on 'working together', sustainability, education etc. but without any god figure. Build up this religion in form of a hierarchical network. Bring in everyone and give them a chance to do things together. Make basic rules which do not exclude too many people but make those basic rules clear and do not allow a…

I don't mean to be flippant, but what you have described sounds an awful lot like the economy. In the book Sapiens , the author describes organisations, money, Capitalism, Communism and more as religions without a deity. The detail that you included which stopped me from calling this utopian is "form of a hierarchical network". It is of course important to recognise that a classless society is impossible. As for solv…

I would prefer another name than just religion or so but this is a structure we know.

I don't wanna look through a catalog of different organizations doing different things.

I wanna build and do things together with similar minded people.

Re: Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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345MW for "$1B", which is presumably the delivered cost. Add another $1B for running, insurance, and decommissioning (or show me real numbers). Walney is a new nameplate 588MW offshore wind farm; it will average close to the same delivered energy and cost $3B.[1] If Terrapower can actually deliver at roughly those costs, they might make a real contribution to our energy future. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotlan…

I'm not sure if this is a valid comparison. It feels to me that the wind farm wins when both cost the same simply because it does not require manned operation and it consumes no fuel. You're unlikely to run out of skilled personnel by deploying too many wind turbines.

Wind turbines definitely need maintenance and a large enough wind farm will probably need that constantly to keep everything running. Wind turbine maintenance is also pretty specific, because it's at height and requires specific knowledge and skills. Off shore wind farms add an extra challenge because of the location.

Re: Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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This is great. We could pave the world with solar panels (that need replacing every few years), mining up tons of politically sensitive rare earth elements, and covering over what remains of our ecosystem and we would be close to what we could achieve with modern, safe reactor designs and our virtually unlimited supply of thorium fuel

An entertaining fantasy but nothing more.g

Re: Bill Gates' nuclear venture plans reactor to complement solar, wind power boom

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This is a pretty horrible attitude to have, but to try to make something positive from this, which problems do you think Gates or someone in his position would be better suited to solving?

I thought about this quite often. I do think one of the biggest possible changes could be a new religion based on 'working together', sustainability, education etc. but without any god figure. Build up this religion in form of a hierarchical network. Bring in everyone and give them a chance to do things together. Make basic rules which do not exclude too many people but make those basic rules clear and do not allow a…

Sounds like the Lions Club/Rotary Club/etc. Not a new idea really,
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