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Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by qppo »

saagarjha wrote: post #3

C'mon, what does it take for Zoom to understand that when people uninstall software they don't want parts of it to stick around forever?

Usually this happens because the person who wrote the file or daemon didn't write the uninstaller and no one gives a hoot about it at review.

Never assume malice that which can be explained by a poor engineering culture

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by black_puppydog »

saagarjha wrote: post #3

C'mon, what does it take for Zoom to understand that when people uninstall software they don't want parts of it to stick around forever?

A court ruling for violation of the GDPR might go some ways there. Of course, these things move slowly. But zoom are now grown up enough that they'll have to plan on these time scales I guess.

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by black_puppydog »

qppo wrote: post #11
saagarjha wrote: post #3

C'mon, what does it take for Zoom to understand that when people uninstall software they don't want parts of it to stick around forever?

Usually this happens because the person who wrote the file or daemon didn't write the uninstaller and no one gives a hoot about it at review. Never assume malice that which can be explained by a poor engineering culture

Well, malice or not, the result is not conforming to the law. And from how I remember it, that's not the first time they are in that situation, so "oops, our bad" shouldn't really cut it.

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by jefftk »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #5

I love how when you go to enter a Zoom meeting, they bury the no-install, run-in-browser link in small type in a footer. And then, if you manage to see the link and use the browser, they withhold "Gallery View", forcing you to deal with the extremely annoying "Active Speaker View".

They do have a Chrome App that will run zoom in Chrome with gallery view, but they hide that even more thoroughly unless you're on ChromeOS: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/zoom/hmbjbjdpkobdj...

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by awinter-py »

wow as with everything that's come out about them it feels like they're trying to get the job done but with limited platform support and badly

it's not absurd for a product manager to want your desktop zoom app to inherit your browser login

though as a user if I saw this behavior I would have a few wtfs. But as a user I would never ever install zoom on a laptop

my takeaway from this isn't GDPR implications, it's that desktop OSes need to get serious about permissions, especially filesystem walkabouts

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by bilbo0s »

ricardo81 wrote: post #10
edoceo wrote: post #6

Brief: adds cookies to Chrome on the UNinstall process. Includes a funny "everlogin" one that lasts 10yr

Worth mentioning that the uninstaller sets the cookie by adapting your cookies file after reading contents of the file entirely unrelated to Zoom.

I don't even know what to say to all that. There's a point at which you're sick and tired of being sick and tired. I'm there.

Re: Zoom still don't understand GDPR

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Post by bilbo0s »

saagarjha wrote: post #3

C'mon, what does it take for Zoom to understand that when people uninstall software they don't want parts of it to stick around forever?

"they don't want parts of it to stick around forever"*

I don't think you're being fair. It's readily apparent that Zoom understands not to make parts of their software stick around forever. The fact that they understand this is the entire reason for setting the cookie to last only 10 years. Which is clearly not as long as forever! /s

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