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ReMarkable 2.0 – A digital notebook that feels like paper

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Re: ReMarkable 2.0 – A digital notebook that feels like paper

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Post by eddiecalzone »

braythwayt wrote: post #156
devindotcom wrote: post #130

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I have the 2 right here and it's better than the first. There's still a perceptible lag (that is, it isn't imperceptible) but it's better than anything else out there including other eink devices (I also have a Boox here that I compared it to, and the Sony DPT before it).

Just to confirm, when you say, "better than anything else out there," that includes the latest generation of iPad Pro with Apple Pencil 2, correct?

Of course not. That wouldn't be an apple-to-apple comparison.

Re: ReMarkable 2.0 – A digital notebook that feels like paper

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Post by braythwayt »

ksd482 wrote: post #97
h3ctic wrote: post #73

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Yes, apparently it only has a latency of 21ms

21ms sounds really low, which is good of course. But as humans, would we notice 21ms lag while writing even if we paid close attention?

The original Apple Pencil and first generation of iPad Pro boasted of a 20ms lag. That was considered impressive, but perceptible if you look at your writing carefully.

I found it fine for note-taking, but lots of people would still notice the latency, especially those using creative tools where there is a strong feedback loop between what you see and what you draw.

They are now claiming 9ms lag. I suspect this is imperceptible for the use case of note-taking and marking up PDF documents (e.g. highlighting, making notes in the margin).

But then again, 20ms is going to be more than fine for that use case as well.

Re: ReMarkable 2.0 – A digital notebook that feels like paper

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Post by GeorgeTirebiter »

devindotcom wrote: post #130
TheRealPomax wrote: post #66

But no mention and video evidence of the pen input lag and precision, which is what's supposed to set this apart from other eink display solutions. The 1 has some lag, just enough to still be a nuisance: did the 2 fix that?

I have the 2 right here and it's better than the first. There's still a perceptible lag (that is, it isn't imperceptible) but it's better than anything else out there including other eink devices (I also have a Boox here that I compared it to, and the Sony DPT before it).

I have Sony's Digital Paper. It is beyond awesome. I notice no lag while writing, and yes it does feel like writing on paper. Is there some way maybe you can measure the difference in what you are observing, lag-wise? Lag has never been an issue I even perceive with Digital Paper. It 'just works'.

Re: ReMarkable 2.0 – A digital notebook that feels like paper

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Post by rvz »

s800 wrote: post #79
marvindanig wrote: post #65

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I agree with you. Don't understand why people are downvoting your observation though.

Because the required hardware technology does not exist.

> does not exist.

Oh really? Lets have a look at the market shall we?

What is this then? [0]

Or this? [1]

Maybe this? [2]

Finally, an actual colour e-ink e-reader product. [3]

64 Bit e-reader bonus review: [4]

I have high hopes for reMarkable to do better than what is on the market right now which is why I would rather wait for a color e-ink version with a 64 bit CPU, which the technologies DO exist today. But unfortunately, what they are offering for a competitive e-reader tablet tells me that they are not even trying, even when they are selling a product with outdated technology. That isn't really a good deal is it?

[0] https://www.eink.com/color-technology.html

[1] https://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2020/07/this-could-finally-be-the-...

[2] https://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/2019/12/18/e-ink-releasing...

[3] https://goodereader.com/blog/reviews/pocketbook-color-e-read...

[4] https://goodereader.com/blog/reviews/remarkable-1-vs-fujitsu...

Re: ReMarkable 2.0 – A digital notebook that feels like paper

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Post by SeriousM »

jordache wrote: post #146

the marketing video intrigued me.. then I found real world reviews.. It's gonna be a nope for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJF_HmMsGRE

I guess some marketing guys lurking in this forum. Remarkable2 is very strong on Instagram and there must be a catch whenever marketing is heavily used.

Re: ReMarkable 2.0 – A digital notebook that feels like paper

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Post by nomel »

ksd482 wrote: post #97
h3ctic wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, apparently it only has a latency of 21ms

21ms sounds really low, which is good of course. But as humans, would we notice 21ms lag while writing even if we paid close attention?

I can absolutely tell the difference between an early iPad Pro (20ms) and later (9ms), when using a pencil. With the lower, it feels more like paper, like color is coming out of the pencil.

Re: ReMarkable 2.0 – A digital notebook that feels like paper

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Post by [deleted] »

minxomat wrote: post #50
cordite wrote: post #24

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Not sure about normal ebooks, but it's been a fantastic tool for getting through IETF RFCs. No distractions, easy on the eyes. Would be nice if the contrast were even better for low light environments. Maybe this 2.0 would do it. I seem to have lost my pen though, so I'm not sure what I'll do for any annotation now.

I second RFC, I've implemented plenty of them while scribbling over them on the RM1. Also great to quickly show a colleague something on a page. But, the eBook (as in published books) experience is pretty bad compared to basically anything. What even the RM2 does is just load the epub/pdf into the editing buffer and other than somewhat faster navigation and a hidden menu, it's not good at all for consumption.

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Re: ReMarkable 2.0 – A digital notebook that feels like paper

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Post by avel »

apricot wrote: post #101

Could I connect this thing to my computer and use it as a whiteboard in a Zoom meeting, or something like that?

https://www.reddit.com/r/RemarkableTablet/comments/g0y2j2/ov...

Check https://github.com/reHackable/awesome-reMarkable for more open source projects.

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