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We'll be stuck in this recession for years, economists say

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Re: We'll be stuck in this recession for years, economists say

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Economists are as effective as astrologists at predicting the future. For some reason otherwise smart people don't realize this? I think it's something about economists being associated with the university system.

I see this assured economic doom repeated so much without being questioned as anything but guaranteed I wonder where this incredible confidence is coming from? We have literally no idea what 2021 holds for us, in the same way we had no idea 2020 would be so uh unique.

Re: We'll be stuck in this recession for years, economists say

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But employers aren't in business to supply jobs, though, right? If the revenue and profits aren't there they can't print up their own money. EDIT: parent comment now empty initially said that companies should hire more people to help keep the economy going.

This is essentially the reason behind Keynesian stimulus, isn't it? Something's gotta bootstrap the recovery.

I thought that in Keynesian stimulus/theory, the government, not the private sector, provides the recovery?

Re: We'll be stuck in this recession for years, economists say

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But employers aren't in business to supply jobs, though, right? If the revenue and profits aren't there they can't print up their own money. EDIT: parent comment now empty initially said that companies should hire more people to help keep the economy going.

This is essentially the reason behind Keynesian stimulus, isn't it? Something's gotta bootstrap the recovery.

Exactly. Like in the 30s the government should step in and hire people. Companies can't do that in a recession/depression. However, the other side of Keynesian economics that's not as often cited is that during the good times the government saves up for the inevitable bad times - we haven't done that for a long time.

Re: We'll be stuck in this recession for years, economists say

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is essentially the reason behind Keynesian stimulus, isn't it? Something's gotta bootstrap the recovery.

Exactly. Like in the 30s the government should step in and hire people. Companies can't do that in a recession/depression. However, the other side of Keynesian economics that's not as often cited is that during the good times the government saves up for the inevitable bad times - we haven't done that for a long time.

You'd need a New Deal [1] effort to do so, but both political parties in the US have no appetite [2] for that sort of legislative effort. It might happen if the quantity of suffering increases, but we're not there yet.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal

[2] https://www.vox.com/2020/8/19/21375039/dnc-2020-democrats-pl...

Re: We'll be stuck in this recession for years, economists say

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is essentially the reason behind Keynesian stimulus, isn't it? Something's gotta bootstrap the recovery.

Exactly. Like in the 30s the government should step in and hire people. Companies can't do that in a recession/depression. However, the other side of Keynesian economics that's not as often cited is that during the good times the government saves up for the inevitable bad times - we haven't done that for a long time.

>Like in the 30s the government should step in and hire people

What does the government usually hire people to do in this situation?

Re: We'll be stuck in this recession for years, economists say

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is essentially the reason behind Keynesian stimulus, isn't it? Something's gotta bootstrap the recovery.

I thought that in Keynesian stimulus/theory, the government, not the private sector, provides the recovery?

Yes. This is not something the private sector can or should do.
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