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SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Post by skissane »

mschuster91 wrote: post #146
capableweb wrote: post #42

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Count yourself lucky you don't live in either South America, Africa or Asia, where +100ms latency is more common than not. Fortunately I can count on one hand the applications that don't work with +100ms latency (not counting gaming). Usually it's the fault of the application developers (or rather the infrastructure team) where they put too low timeouts for requests rather than letting the requests go for a bit longe…

> Can't wait for humanity to become a multi-planet species, as then application developers would have to start taking multi-minute latencies into account, and hopefully that'll help me as someone with ~500ms latency to most services. Stuff that requires realtime (or near realtime) communication simply won't be possible. What remains is bulk data transfer, here I guess the only viable way is: 1) on both ends in both d…

We already have a protocol spec for stuff like this

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5050

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dtn-bpbis-26

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Post by NeutronStar »

jfindley wrote: post #141
gertrunde wrote: post #21

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30-100ms is better than I feared, and should be generally reasonable for most uses.

Consistent 30ms would be pretty excellent, and make it useful for many things. Consistent 50ms, similarly. It starts to get a bit more of an issue at 80ms or 100ms, but my worry is more that jitter may be huge, and 30-100ms is a huge jitter window that could limit usefuless not just for games, but also many other things such as voice calls.

It's still way better than the 500ms satellites it replaces.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Post by seer »

koonsolo wrote: post #157
dstick wrote: post #5

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I saw these Starlink speed test results 2 weeks ago: https://tweakers.net/i/xDBb34kfMAju3YPPMsC3iOc2gXc=/656x/fil... Seems like pretty solid latency :)

I wonder when the first CDN's will be put into space when this will become broadly used.

This got me thinking... people _will_ start putting infra into space sooner or later, just for the better latency. Imagine the new availability zones in aws/gcp/azure :)

Could definitely lead to more investment into space, more money to SpaceX / Blue Origin / etc for their new-gen lift vehicles.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Post by ricardobeat »

phinnaeus wrote: post #153
krageon wrote: post #147

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A 100ms ping is perfectly playable in everything except twitch-based shooters. In voice calls you will notice it, but it won't get in the way like say a 1-2s delay would (like you get if you phone from one end of the world to the other). It's really a very good result bearing in mind that this can work absolutely anywhere.

Fighting games, too. Most gamers know to avoid wifi, much less a wireless ISP.

I don't think that's still true with 802.11ac. My Wi-Fi adds only 1 or 2 ms latency. There is way more jitter, but it doesn't really matter if the total is always under 10ms.

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Post by piva00 »

emteycz wrote: post #134
piva00 wrote: post #123

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As there are objective downsides that we, collectively, are ignoring right now. Financial capitalism shouldn't be praised, at the very best it's a lesson, we got useful tools out of it and that is all.

I am not praising anything, I am correcting your statement that much of the financial industry is a waste of human ingenuity. That "waste of human ingenuity" enabled us to build the modern world.

It wasn't my statement.

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Post by Dylan16807 »

TomGullen wrote: post #67
eecc wrote: post #56

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What a waste of human ingenuity. And I thought ad-tech was bad enough

I think you can argue on the whole is a waste, but I do believe it does have some advantages. EG efficient HFTs can reduce bid ask spreads which does save a lot of money for retail traders.

But being able to do that 50 milliseconds faster really doesn't.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Post by arethuza »

swiley wrote: post #160
joshxyz wrote: post #144

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That's actually better than what most 3rd world countries got, oh god.

It’s better than what most of the US has (by land not people)

I would guess the same for the UK - certainly for Scotland :-(

Edit: Surprisingly little of the UK is actually built up areas: https://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/land-cover-atlas-uk-1.74...

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Post by gameswithgo »

phinnaeus wrote: post #153
krageon wrote: post #147

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A 100ms ping is perfectly playable in everything except twitch-based shooters. In voice calls you will notice it, but it won't get in the way like say a 1-2s delay would (like you get if you phone from one end of the world to the other). It's really a very good result bearing in mind that this can work absolutely anywhere.

Fighting games, too. Most gamers know to avoid wifi, much less a wireless ISP.

wifi doesn't add any latency, inhernetly. nor in practice with actual equipment

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Post by Dylan16807 »

peteretep wrote: post #155
garmaine wrote: post #39

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It’s quite easy to “break” the speed of light in fiberoptic glass.

> It’s quite easy to “break” the speed of light in fiberoptic glass. I don’t understand this, why? Does light travel faster than the speed of light in fibre optic glass?

"the speed of light in fiberoptic glass" is the thing being broken.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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Post by [deleted] »

seer wrote: post #163
koonsolo wrote: post #157

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I wonder when the first CDN's will be put into space when this will become broadly used.

This got me thinking... people _will_ start putting infra into space sooner or later, just for the better latency. Imagine the new availability zones in aws/gcp/azure :) Could definitely lead to more investment into space, more money to SpaceX / Blue Origin / etc for their new-gen lift vehicles.

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