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SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

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#132
People always complain about Latency. But Latency to where?

And is latency in Asia or the Caribbean or anywhere else outside of North America that bad? Nah.

In 2020, latency from almost every continent is good enough for 99.99% of use cases.

Good enough that I can sit here in Bangkok and use Vim all day remotely into servers in Texas without any difficulty.

Starlink will be awesome for the majority of the world. Even "gamers" (if the pricing is good).

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

#133
This is easy to have a lot of bandwidth when you only have 10s of users, but when the bandwidth will be shared between 10000 users will it plummet?

I remember when 4G was new and only few user where using it, it was very fast, but when more users arrived on the spectrum, the bandwidth per user decreased and the latency incised.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

#134
post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually it's not. There are objective benefits to society that you simply ignore.

As there are objective downsides that we, collectively, are ignoring right now. Financial capitalism shouldn't be praised, at the very best it's a lesson, we got useful tools out of it and that is all.

I am not praising anything, I am correcting your statement that much of the financial industry is a waste of human ingenuity. That "waste of human ingenuity" enabled us to build the modern world.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

#135

People always complain about Latency. But Latency to where? And is latency in Asia or the Caribbean or anywhere else outside of North America that bad? Nah. In 2020, latency from almost every continent is good enough for 99.99% of use cases. Good enough that I can sit here in Bangkok and use Vim all day remotely into servers in Texas without any difficulty. Starlink will be awesome for the majority of the world. Even…

I don't think putting quotes around the word gamers helps you get your point across particularly effectively - it sounds like you don't really think it's important enough of a usecase to be worthy of much consideration.

Many years ago, before life got so busy, I used to play FPS games online over various forms of dialup and then (somewhat) faster links. Bandwidth was fine, if you were patient about downloads, but latency caused real problems, even on "good" days when you could get close to 100ms on some of the better links. In short, 100ms latency (taken from another thread) is definitely enough to cause problems for many games, and would also make things like stadia/geforce now/playstation now not viable. This doesn't mean it's not useful tech - I can think of many useful applications, but I don't think we can just handwave away all the cases where 100ms of latency might, actually, cause an issue.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

#136

People always complain about Latency. But Latency to where? And is latency in Asia or the Caribbean or anywhere else outside of North America that bad? Nah. In 2020, latency from almost every continent is good enough for 99.99% of use cases. Good enough that I can sit here in Bangkok and use Vim all day remotely into servers in Texas without any difficulty. Starlink will be awesome for the majority of the world. Even…

Exactly.

Elon confirmed the target is <20ms and <10ms over time.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

#137

People always complain about Latency. But Latency to where? And is latency in Asia or the Caribbean or anywhere else outside of North America that bad? Nah. In 2020, latency from almost every continent is good enough for 99.99% of use cases. Good enough that I can sit here in Bangkok and use Vim all day remotely into servers in Texas without any difficulty. Starlink will be awesome for the majority of the world. Even…

Going from 5-10ms to 30-90ms* might take some getting used to. That's on top of geographic latency.

Chrome's devtools will let you simulate this. It's not pretty but it is better than nothing.

* Yes yes yes, Elon promises better than that, but 30-90ms is what it's currently tested at.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

#138

People always complain about Latency. But Latency to where? And is latency in Asia or the Caribbean or anywhere else outside of North America that bad? Nah. In 2020, latency from almost every continent is good enough for 99.99% of use cases. Good enough that I can sit here in Bangkok and use Vim all day remotely into servers in Texas without any difficulty. Starlink will be awesome for the majority of the world. Even…

Yep, except for FPS & RTS games involving fast hands and quick minds. Anything more than 75 ms is gonna hurt your reflexes.

Re: SpaceX Starlink average speedtest is 42.3Mbps down / 9.7 Mbps up

#139

People always complain about Latency. But Latency to where? And is latency in Asia or the Caribbean or anywhere else outside of North America that bad? Nah. In 2020, latency from almost every continent is good enough for 99.99% of use cases. Good enough that I can sit here in Bangkok and use Vim all day remotely into servers in Texas without any difficulty. Starlink will be awesome for the majority of the world. Even…

I don't think putting quotes around the word gamers helps you get your point across particularly effectively - it sounds like you don't really think it's important enough of a usecase to be worthy of much consideration. Many years ago, before life got so busy, I used to play FPS games online over various forms of dialup and then (somewhat) faster links. Bandwidth was fine, if you were patient about downloads, but lat…

Starlink aims to achieve sub 20ms latency. This is OK for gaming, especially with modern shooters.
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