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TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Few million isn't worth being poisoned/cranially penetrated.

no american tech ceo is getting killed because of a minor dispute like this why does everyone on HN think we're in some low budget spy movie

Spoon-fed propaganda does that to people. It’s easy to fall into a black or white binary “good” vs “evil” trap, which clouds peoples judgement and makes them overlook the nuances that are in every dispute.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They operate under the rules of a powerful political jurisdiction which is not particularly friendly to the US. Here's a simplified version of how the government thinks about it: If Facebook has data on a government employee, it's not a big deal, because Facebook stores that data in the US, and is friendly to the US, and if they do anything bad, they ultimately answer to the laws and regulations of the US government.…

Why hasn't this been a problem for Zoom? If somebody has data about government employees or even recordings of meetings then it is Zoom, not TikTok.

The joke is, kids/K-Pop fans communicated on TikTok to "prank" Trump by buying tickets to his rally and not showing up, making him look bad, and 10 days later Trump started roaring about the app.

Of course Fox News, etc, claim "this Chinese app is subverting democracy", etc, but IMHO they were just using it to communicate...

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They operate under the rules of a powerful political jurisdiction which is not particularly friendly to the US. Here's a simplified version of how the government thinks about it: If Facebook has data on a government employee, it's not a big deal, because Facebook stores that data in the US, and is friendly to the US, and if they do anything bad, they ultimately answer to the laws and regulations of the US government.…

Why hasn't this been a problem for Zoom? If somebody has data about government employees or even recordings of meetings then it is Zoom, not TikTok.

WeChat is a more credible threat but the anglosphere media is mostly ignorant of them so TikTok it is.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They operate under the rules of a powerful political jurisdiction which is not particularly friendly to the US. Here's a simplified version of how the government thinks about it: If Facebook has data on a government employee, it's not a big deal, because Facebook stores that data in the US, and is friendly to the US, and if they do anything bad, they ultimately answer to the laws and regulations of the US government.…

Why hasn't this been a problem for Zoom? If somebody has data about government employees or even recordings of meetings then it is Zoom, not TikTok.

There have been some concerns about Zoom, but as far as why the feds don't care as much? Not sure, but if I were to guess:

* I bet feds and their employees/contractors are not using zoom for official business

* Most people aren't really putting their personal lives on zoom outside of work

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Why hasn't this been a problem for Zoom? If somebody has data about government employees or even recordings of meetings then it is Zoom, not TikTok.

WeChat is a more credible threat but the anglosphere media is mostly ignorant of them so TikTok it is.

WeChat isn't a threat because barely any Americans use it.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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I'm confused on why he's leaving. Is the political scope of the role too much for him and/or is this not the role he intended to occupy?

It's interesting that the "not enough scope" issue can also happen at the CEO level. My naive view was that CEO is in charge of everything, and thus have practically maximum scope. It turns out that is only the case for CEO who wants to stay with the company for a long time. For CEO who doesn't treat the company as their baby, they can potentially focus more on "building a resume" so they can move to be a CEO of a bi…

Typical CEO that just want to build their resume.

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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I am highjacking your comment to express my confusion about this dispute. Not that it exists, but on what grounds it exists. Has TikTok done something that is materially different and worse from what, for example, Facebook has? Or is it only that they do similar things, but they originate from China?

Trump is down 10+ points in the polls. That’s what this is about and TikTok only needs to run out the clock to the 2nd week of November at which point this whole thing will go away for them.

I think you need to update your knowledge of the polls, as much as you may dislike Trump, he isn't down by 10+ points any more.

Regardless, the media has convinced people that only the Republicans and Trump want to see something done about TikTok, but, in fact, there are plenty of Democrats who are also wary of TikTok. Maybe they don't want an outright ban, but they want something done. But since that doesn't garner as many clicks, there will be a bunch of stories claiming it's a bad idea because Trump did it.

There are real reasons we should be worried about the CCP right now. If you track the news, you'll see lots of people being found to be CCP spies and charged. There is a big problem with the CCP having spies and/or people friendly to the CCP in government and academia. Don't let your hatred for Trump blind you to the fact that the CCP is rapidly becoming an issue.

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What's your annual rate for being caught in the middle of a geopolitical superpower dispute?

A few million. But that number goes way up once I've banked a few million. This guy presumably has plenty.

A few billion, at least for those kind of stakes

Re: TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer to leave the company

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Few million isn't worth being poisoned/cranially penetrated.

no american tech ceo is getting killed because of a minor dispute like this why does everyone on HN think we're in some low budget spy movie

What makes you think that? The Russian government just poisoned another opposition thinker, these things are not beyond the pale. North Korea hired a couple of pretty girls to kill a renegade brother or somesuch in public. China has disappeared people over just a few wrong words

If I were in that position I'd make sure I have at least a couple bodyguards, and good ones at that

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