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Re: MixedName – Bilingual baby name finder

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Wait a sec...I named my son Berend...and my last name means “son of fire”. Crap, my kid is going to be a pyro.

Now it sounds like an Chinese/Japanese person saying bellend. Hope they stay away from the UK!

Mandarin Chinese and Cantonese (and presumably most/all other dialects) distinguish r from l. You're thinking of some Japanese/Koreans having trouble due to those languages using a single phoneme that's somewhat between r/l.

Also, it's a bit racist to not point out that it's only some Japanese and Koreans that have trouble pronouncing r and l.

Re: MixedName – Bilingual baby name finder

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> French seems like the language which has quite a bit of names either translates or transliterated into other languages -perhaps due to proximity as well as influence. Any name of a (Catholic) saint would probably have mappings to other languages. (The Jesuits got around. :)

That’s true, but they won’t all be commonly used as names everywhere. Jesús is a common Spanish name, but totally nonexistent in English and French as far as I’m aware. María too is way more common than “Mary” in English (that is a real English name, but AFAICT it’s pretty rare in the last few generations).

FWIW “Mary” is sort of the stereotypical female name here in Ireland, though I see from looking at the stats that its use has dropped off a good bit (#92 in girls names last year). I’d bet that drop-off is precisely because it’s seen as a very common old-fashioned name redolent of pre-90s world which modern Ireland has a very complex relationship with.

Re: MixedName – Bilingual baby name finder

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> French seems like the language which has quite a bit of names either translates or transliterated into other languages -perhaps due to proximity as well as influence. Any name of a (Catholic) saint would probably have mappings to other languages. (The Jesuits got around. :)

Except "Jarlath"

We have “Iarlaith” in Irish which I believe is cognate with it.

Re: MixedName – Bilingual baby name finder

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Great concept, and not a criticism, but a bit of an anecdote For Chinese-English it suggested "Lee", which as far as I know (my Cantonese and Mandarin aren't that great) is typically the Cantonese anglicisation of 李 (Mandarin Pinyin for this is Li) My given English name is "Lee" and this actually causes no end of confusion in both Hong Kong and China, as it's typically used as surname - in fact, when I attempted to u…

Hopefully your surname isn't easily mistaken for a given name. I've been living in Hong Kong almost 9 years now, and my middle name is often mistaken for my first name, or less commonly, my surname.

Based on my experience, "Lee Ryan" would probably be mistaken for "Ryan Lee" well over 50% of the time.

Re: MixedName – Bilingual baby name finder

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I did a similar thing for our kids (Hindi/English) but we had slightly different goals. Since the kids were getting my English surname, we wanted to give them Hindi first names, but we wanted them to be easily pronounceable in English. So I wrote a character-based ngram language model based on the US census count of names, and used that to score a list of Hindi names. I then improved it by adding a bunch of rewrite r…

And here my approach to naming was: - veto names of dickheads I knew. Of course, I know good people with those names too but that wasn't the deciding factor. I simply didn't want my kids name to be associated with a dickhead in my own mind in any way, shape or form. Very me-centric I guess but I wanted the best personal relationship with my kid.

This is the standard heuristic parents use so you are not alone. Interestingly it seems to cause names to go in cycles. Every generation has their own popular names. You end up picking a name that is not common in your parents or in your own generation, because there is always a dickhead with the common ones. If I remember right first names go in around 60-year cycles.

Re: MixedName – Bilingual baby name finder

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I did a similar thing for our kids (Hindi/English) but we had slightly different goals. Since the kids were getting my English surname, we wanted to give them Hindi first names, but we wanted them to be easily pronounceable in English. So I wrote a character-based ngram language model based on the US census count of names, and used that to score a list of Hindi names. I then improved it by adding a bunch of rewrite r…

We are Saivites living in an English speaking world so I tried to make our names "short and sweet" - e.g. for my son Mahesh instead of Maheshwara

Re: MixedName – Bilingual baby name finder

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Samuel exists as a German name and is pronounced in a German way, but as far as I know the short version does not exist as a German name and I would try to pronounce it as an English name when I see it.

You would probably pronounce it /sɑm/, or maybe /sam/, while I would pronounce it /sæm/. But again, I don't mind. I kinda like the way the rest of the world says it, actually. æ is my least favorite sound in my native tongue...

No, that's kinda my point, there's no reason for me to pronounce it /sɑm/. The German version of Samuel is /zaːmueːl/, so if I'd try to make a short version of the German Samuel I'd use /zam/ but that sounds very, very weird to my ears. Instead I'd probably pronounce it like /sɛm/, which is the German attempt to imitate /sæm/.
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