You wouldn't believe how proper, non-racist and balanced this comment was before being seized upon by a mob, half of whom have deleted their messages now. Lesson to fellow Europeans: Don't ever comment on anything that involves race. The Americans are going through something special at the moment and they're lashing out at pretty much anything. I wish I could delete this comment, but alas I can not.
> this Indian-run website says... It looks like Vedang Sati is just a regular guy on the internet who happens to be of Indian origin and his pick of his favorite people don't show any obvious bias[0]. On the other hand, I shouldn't even be defending him. The implied bias/nationalism here is in poor taste. This is no different from saying > this Jew-run website says... [0] https://www.vedangsati.com/p/about-me.html
Scientists who never won a Nobel Prize
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Re: Scientists who never won a Nobel Prize
#82Fred Hoyle
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#84Einstein. Yes, he won one - but as this discussion has expanded a bit from the original article it could be argued he was underserved... https://www.huffpost.com/entry/einstein-fantasy-physics_b_49...
Personally, I think his work on the Photo-Electric Effect deserved the recognition that it received. But Albert Einstein is far more myth than man. Everyone idolizes Einstein, he was the quintessential mad scientist. And it is difficult to challenge the notion of this myth without being accused of anti-semetism. But I risk doing so... When one actually studies the History of Science, one discovers shocking things. No…
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#86Tesla is one of the most overrated persons in history. Edison is better in every regard, except for killing an elephant
Let that stand as a symbol for all the other horrible things Edison did, like electrocuting a number of dogs and cats, and killing his assistant.
Tesla is not exactly overrated, but at least he never stole credit for inventions, and he never killed anyone, unlike Edison (his assistant, glassblower Clarence Madison Dally, who died a rather horrible death).
"Relatively unknown," is a better description for Tesla. Edison invented a few things, the telegraph... no that was David Alter. Edison invented something to copy telegraphs, and he invented the phonograph, which was truly revolutionary, a way to record sound... but he did not invent the record player... he made lightbulbs practical... but he did not invent the electric lightbulb, of course. Edison did not invent the kinetoscope, or movie camera (that was Edward Muybridge) and he knew very little about it, but he took credit for it anyway. Edison took credit for wax paper, but he had absolutely nothing to do with that invention (invented by Gustav Le Gray). He did not invent storage batteries, but he made a lot of money with them. Edison did not invent the power generator, though he is credited for it (his assistants, Charles Batchelor and Francis Upton, were the true inventors of this).
Nearly all the other great achievements attributed to Edison were actually invented by his rival inventors or unknown (to the masses) employees, the researchers he hired, (such as the electric chair, invented by Harold P. Brown).
Tesla was a lot smarter than Edison. He never wrote anything down, and was able to keep his designs in his head. He invented the Tesla coil, the Tesla Turbine, The Shadowgraph, the Neon Lamp, The Niagra Falls Transformer House, the Induction Motor, the RC boat, Alternating Current, and Radio. Tesla held over 300 patents across 5 continents, and all of then were his innovations. God knows how many of Edison's 1000-some patents were actually his.
I don't understand how you or anyone can believe what you wrote. Edison was a major douche bag, an obvious sociopath, which sort of overshadows what he actually invented, which actually number in the low double digits. Tesla's inventions number in the low-mid triple digits
Tesla is not overrated, quite the opposite, apparently, and Edison certainly is not better in any regard than Tesla.
But Tesla was weird, and not all that popular. Edison, like all successful sociopaths throughout history, was hugely popular.
Re: Scientists who never won a Nobel Prize
#87I'd add Emmy Noether to this list : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmy_Noether
I had the same thought. But mathematicians who just help physicists rarely get a nobel. Even if its work is invaluable, such as Emmy's work. You could call her one of the "fathers" if modern theoretical physics, if it wouldn't be too ironic. Thanksfully they didn't forget to mention Lise Meitner
Re: Scientists who never won a Nobel Prize
#88Tesla is one of the most overrated persons in history. Edison is better in every regard, except for killing an elephant
except for killing an elephant Let that stand as a symbol for all the other horrible things Edison did, like electrocuting a number of dogs and cats, and killing his assistant. Tesla is not exactly overrated, but at least he never stole credit for inventions, and he never killed anyone, unlike Edison (his assistant, glassblower Clarence Madison Dally, who died a rather horrible death). "Relatively unknown," is a bett…
This is some sort of urban legend/myth that came about sometime in the early 2000s. Probably due to the Oatmeal.
Edison was not a sociopath. Specifically with respect to Dally, Edison kept Dally on the payroll even when he was too sick to work, and IIRC personally paid out Dally's immediate family a coninuing pension after Dally's death. For the era around 1900 that was unheard of, and at the very least, evidence of humanity that you don't seem to be willing to admit.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
except for killing an elephant Let that stand as a symbol for all the other horrible things Edison did, like electrocuting a number of dogs and cats, and killing his assistant. Tesla is not exactly overrated, but at least he never stole credit for inventions, and he never killed anyone, unlike Edison (his assistant, glassblower Clarence Madison Dally, who died a rather horrible death). "Relatively unknown," is a bett…
> Edison was a major douche bag, an obvious sociopath, which sort of overshadows what he actually invented, which actually number in the low double digits This is some sort of urban legend/myth that came about sometime in the early 2000s. Probably due to the Oatmeal. Edison was not a sociopath. Specifically with respect to Dally, Edison kept Dally on the payroll even when he was too sick to work, and IIRC personally…
Re: Scientists who never won a Nobel Prize
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
except for killing an elephant Let that stand as a symbol for all the other horrible things Edison did, like electrocuting a number of dogs and cats, and killing his assistant. Tesla is not exactly overrated, but at least he never stole credit for inventions, and he never killed anyone, unlike Edison (his assistant, glassblower Clarence Madison Dally, who died a rather horrible death). "Relatively unknown," is a bett…
> Edison was a major douche bag, an obvious sociopath, which sort of overshadows what he actually invented, which actually number in the low double digits This is some sort of urban legend/myth that came about sometime in the early 2000s. Probably due to the Oatmeal. Edison was not a sociopath. Specifically with respect to Dally, Edison kept Dally on the payroll even when he was too sick to work, and IIRC personally…