Linux desktop*. We often don't think of them as linux, but Apple tvOS is BSD and virtually every other TV and smart box is Android (linux).
Apple TV is based on Darwin, which isn’t a BSD, it’s a certified UNIX. (Or at least it once was)
HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold
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Re: HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold
#12Usually the solution is to use Windows, Mac or one of their supported devices[1]. I doubt Linux was ever on their radar. For most people this is a non-issue and can be easily solved. [1] https://help.hbomax.com/Answer/Detail/20
Linux is explicitly on their radar. What do you think Android or Chromebooks are?
A more bigger reason that this is a big non-issue then, just use an Android or Chromebook for your Widevine enabled content on 'Linux'.
Problem solved for the Linux crowd.
Re: HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold
#13Piracy to the rescue I guess?
I haven't kept up with the scene but as long as set top boxes & sticks exist, can't you just buy a $10 HDCP decoder on eBay and re-compress with minimal loss?
Re: HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold
#14Piracy to the rescue I guess?
I haven't kept up with the scene but as long as set top boxes & sticks exist, can't you just buy a $10 HDCP decoder on eBay and re-compress with minimal loss?
I guess the Hollywood-industrial complex has to pretend that doesn't exist because it would mean the emperor has had no clothes for decades.
Re: HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold
#15> Widevine is a proprietary digital rights management (DRM) technology provider used by Google Chrome and Firefox web browsers (and some of its derivates), Android MediaDRM, Android TV, and other consumer electronics devices. Widevine Technologies was purchased by Google in 2010 Yet again, Google as the root issue: from https://www.widevine.com/news (April 01 '20) > All Widevine browser-based integrations (platforms…
Huh? The vast, vast majority of Widevine streaming is done to ARM devices - Qualcomm and Exynos chips for Android, which have a verified media path in hardware.
Is "verified" code for user hostile?
(I would say owner, but clearly purchasing a phone does not grant full ownership.)
Re: HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold
#16Linux desktop*. We often don't think of them as linux, but Apple tvOS is BSD and virtually every other TV and smart box is Android (linux).
In your retarded bud for supremacy you completely managed to ignore the issue. I know linux has a lot of stakeholders now but as a user, I hope your toxic kind does (in terms of tech presence) so I can have nice people making my linux and nice features.
Re: HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold
#17Usually the solution is to use Windows, Mac or one of their supported devices[1]. I doubt Linux was ever on their radar. For most people this is a non-issue and can be easily solved. [1] https://help.hbomax.com/Answer/Detail/20
Linux is explicitly on their radar. What do you think Android or Chromebooks are?
> Linux is explicitly on their radar. What do you think Android or Chromebooks are?
Android and Chromebooks don't intrinsically get you the content either. They just tend to run on hardware that's supported or include closed source components for big chunks of their graphics systems and management engines including chains of trust that are signed as being the code the other sections expect.
The average desktop Linux system has no interest in that, so it doesn't happen.
Re: HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold
#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huh? The vast, vast majority of Widevine streaming is done to ARM devices - Qualcomm and Exynos chips for Android, which have a verified media path in hardware.
Is "verified" code for user hostile? (I would say owner, but clearly purchasing a phone does not grant full ownership.)
Yes
Re: HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold
#19Ars is a few weeks late to the game here. Previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24094386
I don't really get the melodrama of most of the top comments in that the old thread nor the current headline. Everyone is bemoaning how this is what drives people to piracy... but does Chrome not work anymore? Is the bar for resorting to piracy that low? It's hard to feel sympathetic when the starting position is presented as "It's broken, we've been forsaken!" but then on inspection it turns out to really be a case of "It doesn't work in a way that fits our politics, we've been forsaken!" I get that there's a lot of idealism in play but the histrionics just make the author and the community look dishonest.
Re: HBO Max cranks up the Widevine DRM, leaves Linux users in the cold
#20Piracy to the rescue I guess?
I haven't kept up with the scene but as long as set top boxes & sticks exist, can't you just buy a $10 HDCP decoder on eBay and re-compress with minimal loss?
HDCP gets patched with time as well you know. How aggressively to require 'patched' versions is up to the content itself, if I recall correctly.