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Learn Vim (the Smart Way): a book to learn the good parts of Vim

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Re: Learn Vim (the Smart Way): a book to learn the good parts of Vim

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Post by lmohseni »

JoshMcguigan wrote: post #12
rubyn00bie wrote: post #7

Two things that helped me more than anything with "learning" vim and or ever wanting to use it: 1. Remap your "capslock" key to "escape." Vi was written using an ADM-3A terminal and its keyboard, which you can see here: https://catonmat.net/why-vim-uses-hjkl-as-arrow-keys has the escape-key in a sane place. On modern keyboards, if you can, remap "capslock" to "escape" when pressed alone, and "ctrl" when pressed with…

When I was first learning Vim I remapped caps lock to escape, and it was a huge improvement. But as I became more comfortable in Vim I realized I was using the control key a lot. I've since remapped caps lock to control, and use ctrl-[ as escape (this is default behavior). I find having an easily accesible control key is very useful, even outside Vim. You can see in your link that it is actually the control key that…

On Linux and Mac it’s possible to have caps be escape when pressed alone or control when pressed with another key. On Linux the software is called xcape. :)

Re: Learn Vim (the Smart Way): a book to learn the good parts of Vim

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Post by cheerlessbog »

keithnz wrote: post #38
cheerlessbog wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That game is a labor of love by someone - I spent weeks playing it. So much fun solving puzzles and learning at the same time. If I had a criticism is that I'm not sure much has stuck with me. I still use the same 10-15 commands and all the obscure tricks it taught me are gone. Its worth the money just for the fun alone. Great to mess with on a laptop when you're on a plane.

the biggest problem is you buy the game for $25 and it only lasts 6 months, that seems a bit crap, doesn't really make sense to me to sell it as a limited time license, which is why I never bought it. But then I'm not exactly the target audience, I already know Vim, but I did enjoy the intro levels when I tried it a while back.

That's true but most people would pay that once or twice, which puts potentially small beans if it increases your productivity. Plus it's fun

Re: Learn Vim (the Smart Way): a book to learn the good parts of Vim

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Post by NilsIRL »

lmohseni wrote: post #51
JoshMcguigan wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was first learning Vim I remapped caps lock to escape, and it was a huge improvement. But as I became more comfortable in Vim I realized I was using the control key a lot. I've since remapped caps lock to control, and use ctrl-[ as escape (this is default behavior). I find having an easily accesible control key is very useful, even outside Vim. You can see in your link that it is actually the control key that…

On Linux and Mac it’s possible to have caps be escape when pressed alone or control when pressed with another key. On Linux the software is called xcape. :)

There's also caps2esc, which works even on the tty. https://gitlab.com/interception/linux/plugins/caps2esc

Re: Learn Vim (the Smart Way): a book to learn the good parts of Vim

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Post by cecida »

I'm not trying to be contrarian here, but why would someone continue to use Vim and Emacs when all of its lovely features have been integrated into products like VCode?

It just reminds me of serious men with beards working on mainframes and AIX power systems when I started my career.

Re: Learn Vim (the Smart Way): a book to learn the good parts of Vim

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Post by woldemariam »

cecida wrote: post #55

I'm not trying to be contrarian here, but why would someone continue to use Vim and Emacs when all of its lovely features have been integrated into products like VCode? It just reminds me of serious men with beards working on mainframes and AIX power systems when I started my career.

Can you please provide examples (or a link) that shows Vim integrated into VSCode?

Re: Learn Vim (the Smart Way): a book to learn the good parts of Vim

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Post by leephillips »

chongli wrote: post #50
leephillips wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you mean you use them to insert ,s and ;s. But the leader key would not be for insert mode, so you can choose anything convenient.

No, I use them with the f and F keys. They repeat the previous character search in forward and backward directions.

Oh, I see. Sorry for assuming. I use the ; for that often, but didn't even know about , for going backwards. (Now I'm thinking that my bunch of maps using , were not such a good idea.)

Re: Learn Vim (the Smart Way): a book to learn the good parts of Vim

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Post by OpossumMinister »

cecida wrote: post #55

I'm not trying to be contrarian here, but why would someone continue to use Vim and Emacs when all of its lovely features have been integrated into products like VCode? It just reminds me of serious men with beards working on mainframes and AIX power systems when I started my career.

You might be able to get the modal editing of Vim into other editors and IDEs, but you'll never get ability to modify your editor as if it's just another program (while it's running!), which is the main power of Emacs.

Re: Learn Vim (the Smart Way): a book to learn the good parts of Vim

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Post by 49531 »

cecida wrote: post #55

I'm not trying to be contrarian here, but why would someone continue to use Vim and Emacs when all of its lovely features have been integrated into products like VCode? It just reminds me of serious men with beards working on mainframes and AIX power systems when I started my career.

A couple good reasons I can think of off the top of my head is that vim is easy to get up and running in headless environments, even with all of the bells and whistles of a modern text editor or IDE.

Another reason is that I really enjoy that vim runs in my terminal. I can easily toggle in and out of vim while doing heavy terminal work, and if I want to rapidly open and close different files while looking around for things vim makes it simple.

There might be an aesthetic or comfort aspect to it, but most tools don't stay as relevant as vim has for mere style points.

Re: Learn Vim (the Smart Way): a book to learn the good parts of Vim

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Post by 49531 »

woldemariam wrote: post #56
cecida wrote: post #55

I'm not trying to be contrarian here, but why would someone continue to use Vim and Emacs when all of its lovely features have been integrated into products like VCode? It just reminds me of serious men with beards working on mainframes and AIX power systems when I started my career.

Can you please provide examples (or a link) that shows Vim integrated into VSCode?

I think they're referencing vim emulator plugins for VSCode: https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim
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