Wow. Tech writers for MDN? Servo team? Or PR stunt?
I don't think 245k is the amount it takes to pay the MDN or Servo team for more than one month.
It could have payed for maintenance in some way, thats for sure.
Mozilla funding $245,000 for Black artists to show how #AI can reinforce/disrupt
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Re: Mozilla funding $245,000 for Black artists to show how #AI can reinforce/disrupt
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've known for a while that Mozilla's focus is not on producing technically excellent software. However, their latest actions and messages have only accelerated my desire to move away from Firefox - they are now just another "socially-aware" activist group, complete with ambitious ladder-climbing upper management, and apparently burdened with maintaining a browswer.
"Get woke. Go broke" --as the Gabsters say.
Gabsters? Isn't that just a true statement?
I dont even know what a gabster is, is this the new "alt-right" label to throw around on people you have a mild political disagreeance with?
This post is now at -1 score and I still don't know what a gabster is, can you elaborate?
Ah I think I figured it out. Just like we call twitter users "Twits" we apparently call gab.ai users gabsters.
Re: Mozilla funding $245,000 for Black artists to show how #AI can reinforce/disrupt
#23I'm cynical at heart. Anyone else that thinks that some higher up have done something racist and now the PR/HR machinery is working full time preemptively wash the brand?
It's more just likely people at the top are not very passionate about technology but are very passionate about social issues. I know a lot of people look to Firefox and therefore Mozilla as being a beacon against the big three and browser monoculture but there is evidently a disconnect between what most of us want from Mozilla and what interests the people in charge of Mozilla, judging from the engineers who were let…
But what "systems of oppression" is there really against people of color in America?
It seems like there is more systemic oppression against caucasians, that don't get easy access to stuff like affirmative action.
I agree that there is systemic racism in the US, but it is the other way around. Caucasians gets shot by police every single day without as much as a media mention. But lo and behold if some black drug dealer fails to comply with basic instructons.
As an outsider, I only have laughs and shrugs left for America. And the past months of so called protest made me open the eyes for how big a problem black violence is in America. All the footage of innocent people getting killed trying to protect their businesses, zero mainstream media mention.
BLM takes offense to all lives matter, and after seeing BLM protesters run over a racoon and then beat it while its screaming in pain and fear - That made me realize that absolutely no lives matters for the BLM.
We can all be thankful that BLM funding will take a drop after the elections are over.
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#25Yeah, you know. This might not be the best move, right after they had to let go so many developers.
The for-profit Mozilla Corporation laid off developers. The not-for-profit Mozilla Foundation is launching this initiative.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Get woke. Go broke" --as the Gabsters say.
Gabsters? Isn't that just a true statement? I dont even know what a gabster is, is this the new "alt-right" label to throw around on people you have a mild political disagreeance with? This post is now at -1 score and I still don't know what a gabster is, can you elaborate? Ah I think I figured it out. Just like we call twitter users "Twits" we apparently call gab.ai users gabsters.
Probably relted to "Gab". Not sure about "alt-right" but from what I know gab was founded as a "censorship-free alternative to Twitter".
Re: Mozilla funding $245,000 for Black artists to show how #AI can reinforce/disrupt
#27Yeah, you know. This might not be the best move, right after they had to let go so many developers.
The for-profit Mozilla Corporation laid off developers. The not-for-profit Mozilla Foundation is launching this initiative.
Right. The have absolutely nothing to do with each other, because the Moz Foundation has probably no say whatsoever in the Corporation's decision. Especially since the Corporation is not only wholly owned by the Foundation but they also have a common chair.
The first line of "About the Mozilla Corporation" [0]:
>The Mozilla Corporation was established in August 2005 as a wholly owned taxable subsidiary that serves the non-profit, public benefit goals of its parent, the Mozilla Foundation (emphasis mine).
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#28Yeah Mozilla really need to make it so you can donate to certain things i.e Firefox or TOR browser development. Until they do my money is going elsewhere.
Tor development is separate from mozilla. You can donate to them directly.
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#29It's curious to me that you can make race a legal requirement for anything.
Ideally you wouldn’t, but if there’s a long history of discrimination against that race/sex/orientation/identity then you need to do that to correct for the historical bias. I’d rather it not exist, but there isn’t really any other corrective measure you can make.
But what evidence is there that these kinds of projects actually help the people they are trying to help?
I mean, not every black person in America today is descended from slaves. It's kind of racist to assume that if you see a black person, they must be a slave descendant. So this project is not necessarily going to benefit the people who were historically discriminated against.
Additionally, how do you prevent this project from helping people who are already well off? Since people who have money, or the children of people with money, are more likely to be able to participate and do well. I would argue that there is a good chance that this will benefit rich (or well off) people, who happen to have a particular skin color.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
The for-profit Mozilla Corporation laid off developers. The not-for-profit Mozilla Foundation is launching this initiative.
Right. The have absolutely nothing to do with each other, because the Moz Foundation has probably no say whatsoever in the Corporation's decision. Especially since the Corporation is not only wholly owned by the Foundation but they also have a common chair. The first line of "About the Mozilla Corporation" [0]: >The Mozilla Corporation was established in August 2005 as a wholly owned taxable subsidiary that serves th…
I’m not sure why you’re being snarky and uncivil. Yes they are related (never said they weren’t), but the Foundation cannot transfer $245k to the Corporation to help fund salaries of workers. The Corp exists to be run as a business and the Foundation exists primarily for advocacy.