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Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Post by tudorw »

krick wrote: post #38

Not sure how much of a news story it is. I also want to build the ISS of the sea, I always did. Now, I don't have a famous granddad with whom I share my last name, but even if I did it's not like it's enough to build ISS of the sea. The article is written in a very dreamy tone and contains very little substantial information. It firmly assures that "Proteus will be" such and such, as if they are making the finishing…

In a world where a kpop band can get 150 million views in 24 hours I'd say visionary projects like this are a welcome addition to the internet.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Post by Juliate »

secondcoming wrote: post #49
bambax wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of sources (in French). For example: Anti-Semitism: https://www.lemonde.fr/archives/article/1999/06/18/la-plonge... Cousteau's first wife Simone was independently wealthy and financed his boat (Calypso) and expeditions. She lived on board most of the time (yet never appears on camera). But he had another secret family (with kids) on the shore with a former flight attendant, since the late 70s. Simone only lear…

I think you'd be surprised at how much infidelity is a part of being French.

Says who? You mean, "part of being human"?

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Post by colechristensen »

krick wrote: post #38

Not sure how much of a news story it is. I also want to build the ISS of the sea, I always did. Now, I don't have a famous granddad with whom I share my last name, but even if I did it's not like it's enough to build ISS of the sea. The article is written in a very dreamy tone and contains very little substantial information. It firmly assures that "Proteus will be" such and such, as if they are making the finishing…

Lots of things succeed with very shallow major drivers, like a name.

“Cousteau’s grandson”, just that phrase, will grab attention around the world from people who never once saw the grandfather’s face.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Post by henearkr »

bambax wrote: post #35
dusted wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He may have been all that, but it's hardly relevant. What's relevant is whether he made a net positive or negative impact on the world with his actions. My guess is he made more kids (and adults) happy with his programs, than he made sad with his personality and opinions. Say I listen to a LGBTIOAQ+* muscian who hates straight people like myself (they exist), who is a feminist who hates men like myself, but I enjoy t…

Listening to Michael Jackson's songs is one thing. Saying he was a great human being and wanting to put things to his name is another. If you like Cousteau's movies, good for you. But invoking his name and making him a hero is, I think, wrong.

He was a great oceanographer, engineer, filmmaker, and he opened the eyes of multiple generations on what lies in the oceans and how it's fragile and important to protect it. Isn't that worth a monument? He may have said/done/been bad things at the same time. Do we bury all bronze busts of Wagner?

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Post by jessriedel »

9nGQluzmnq3M wrote: post #6

I suspect somebody was inspired by the Octonauts' Octopod, down to the "liquid door" hatch inside: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/octopod/images/f/fd/Octo...

> down to the "liquid door" hatch inside:

Moon pools or wet porches have been ubiquitous in underwater habitats for many decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_pool

That you know of them through a cartoon is not a good criticism of the proposal.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Post by 9nGQluzmnq3M »

jessriedel wrote: post #65
9nGQluzmnq3M wrote: post #6

I suspect somebody was inspired by the Octonauts' Octopod, down to the "liquid door" hatch inside: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/octopod/images/f/fd/Octo...

> down to the "liquid door" hatch inside: Moon pools or wet porches have been ubiquitous in underwater habitats for many decades. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_pool That you know of them through a cartoon is not a good criticism of the proposal.

Who's criticising? The Octonauts is an awesome show, and this concept is awesome too!

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Post by bambax »

henearkr wrote: post #64
bambax wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Listening to Michael Jackson's songs is one thing. Saying he was a great human being and wanting to put things to his name is another. If you like Cousteau's movies, good for you. But invoking his name and making him a hero is, I think, wrong.

He was a great oceanographer, engineer, filmmaker, and he opened the eyes of multiple generations on what lies in the oceans and how it's fragile and important to protect it. Isn't that worth a monument? He may have said/done/been bad things at the same time. Do we bury all bronze busts of Wagner?

I don't care for Wagner's bust. I care for his music.

Edit: Cousteau's work is as bad as his character.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Post by henearkr »

bambax wrote: post #67
henearkr wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He was a great oceanographer, engineer, filmmaker, and he opened the eyes of multiple generations on what lies in the oceans and how it's fragile and important to protect it. Isn't that worth a monument? He may have said/done/been bad things at the same time. Do we bury all bronze busts of Wagner?

I don't care for Wagner's bust. I care for his music. Edit: Cousteau's work is as bad as his character.

Well, people building/buying Wagner's busts are some big fans of his music who want somehow to materialize their fandom.

They certainly are not fans of his life, his life is extremely irrelevant, it may as well be totally forgotten, and it would not hurt.

About your last edit: here I beg to disagree.

I love his work as a filmmaker, it made me love the sea and nature in general and made me want to protect it. When I was a child he contributed to educate me and make me an environmentalist. On me at least, his work was tremendously successful.

As an engineer, he created a lot of devices used today for diving. His boat Alcyone was even sporting revolutionary static turbosails.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Post by bambax »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #46
bambax wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In many letters written during WWII Cousteau wishes to get rid of "youtres" which is a derogatory word for Jews much worse than the N word in English. The defense of Commandant Cousteau's anti-Semite private writings usually goes along the lines of "okay, but everybody did the same at the time". But this is not true. Most people did not actively call for the physical extermination of Jews in occupied France. They did…

So far you and others here have only shown one example of a letter where he is calling for jewish (and muslim) people to be kicked out. I have seen nothing about extermination etc. Even more so- what the hell is this "not a good family" business all about? Seriously? The whole family? Because of one member? This is just mud-slinging.

By "family" I meant Cousteau's family during the war, not all his descendants of course. Sorry if that was unclear.

But he was a Nazi sympathizer and was protected by the Germans during the war. Then he falsely claimed to have been a member of the Resistance. This is all documented in his biography.

Re: Jacques Cousteau’s grandson wants to build the ISS of the sea

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Post by tommilukkarinen »

If I build underwater real-estate, there are no laws governing it? There probably aren't laws anywhere in the world about it? Probably I can still be harassed if it's in national waters. But if it's in international waters? Nuclear reactor test site?
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