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A Tuna's Worth

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Re: A Tuna's Worth

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Such beautiful animals. It's a shame we haven't found a way to fish them responsibly.

Apparently not beautiful enough to avoid being killed at all, though. It's a shame we haven't stopped eating animals.

Ah yes, pesky humans. If only nature didn't have those killer humans it would be all peace and harmony.

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At an unimaginably low standard of living.

If you lack imagination and don't get out into nature much, you might not get it. But read Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn and you'll gain some understanding for how rich traditional aboriginal life was.

I would not want to live in a world where the average life expectancy was 25 years, and where most people died from exposure to the natural elements, easily curable diseases, or being eaten by wild beasts.

Sure, they may have enjoyed a life free of that ol' 9-5 grind, but I much prefer air conditioning and vaccines to stoning rabbits to death to evade starvation every week.

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Lumber is currently close and I bet could potentially totally be if you reverted to wood burning energy sources. That said, I’m unsure if having more trees is actually responsible given the fire risk.

Despite popular belief, it is not a great idea to release a shitton of CO2 in a hot minute just because over 200 years, a newly grown tree can consume it back.

Bit of an overstatement in both directions. If you burn an entire tree each year and maintain a woodlot of 20 trees that take 20 years to grow, you’re neutral. Scale as necessary.

It’s bad for local air quality.

Also need to be clear on whether we’re talking individual home wood heating or industrial centralised systems.

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Apparently not beautiful enough to avoid being killed at all, though. It's a shame we haven't stopped eating animals.

Ah yes, pesky humans. If only nature didn't have those killer humans it would be all peace and harmony.

Absolute false argument. Humans are the cause of nearly every extinction for the last several hundred years. Nature wouldn't be peaceful, but it sure as shit would be more balanced. By arguing that nature is violent and chaotic (and thus we are only doing what is natural) absolves us of our responsibility to try and undo the damage we have wreaked on this planet for centuries. We are the enemy of every creature on this planet, and we need to face that.

Re: A Tuna's Worth

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One day I hope to spear one myself. I have a few friends that have been hard working and lucky enough to spear one and the food that they share from that is incredible. Sushi for days. Then again, these are the smaller bluefin about the size of a man, no one is spearing the giants.

Re: A Tuna's Worth

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One day I hope to spear one myself. I have a few friends that have been hard working and lucky enough to spear one and the food that they share from that is incredible. Sushi for days. Then again, these are the smaller bluefin about the size of a man, no one is spearing the giants.

You would need some serious clips and line... and maybe a boat as your float.

Even other species of tuna that get relatively large look like an absolute life event to spear. There are albacore in the blue waters where I live, and some day I’d absolutely love to drop on a school of those. They get over four feet long!

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Ah yes, pesky humans. If only nature didn't have those killer humans it would be all peace and harmony.

Absolute false argument. Humans are the cause of nearly every extinction for the last several hundred years. Nature wouldn't be peaceful, but it sure as shit would be more balanced. By arguing that nature is violent and chaotic (and thus we are only doing what is natural) absolves us of our responsibility to try and undo the damage we have wreaked on this planet for centuries. We are the enemy of every creature on th…

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Re: A Tuna's Worth

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Ah yes, pesky humans. If only nature didn't have those killer humans it would be all peace and harmony.

Absolute false argument. Humans are the cause of nearly every extinction for the last several hundred years. Nature wouldn't be peaceful, but it sure as shit would be more balanced. By arguing that nature is violent and chaotic (and thus we are only doing what is natural) absolves us of our responsibility to try and undo the damage we have wreaked on this planet for centuries. We are the enemy of every creature on th…

That's a bit of straw-man, I never said any of that. You have extended the conversation far beyond eating animals which is natural and can be done responsibly.

Re: A Tuna's Worth

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Hmm, the article was somewhat interesting, but after spending 15 minutes with it, I felt it just ended up rambling without a clear point.

Not that that's a bad thing -- there's something to be said for long narrative. Or reading something for atmosphere.

But especially for a coastal eco-website/magazine, I would think the writer would try to emphasize more of a focused point or question / issue for the reader to ponder. Like the need for fisheries management, or the cost of shipping fish around the globe, or the struggle of a quota'd fishing boat, or something like that.

This one wandered among several different topics, touching each one briefly but never really sticking to a theme and driving the point home. Even the last paragraph, which usually ends up with a question or big point, read just like any other paragraph or sentence. Ah well.

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