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> You can't get 125 million folks into this address space? I think some people are now using a new card number per transaction , with these disposable card numbers, aren't they?
We are lucky they don't use a disposable IPv4 address per page, that would break the Internet /s.
Japan facing credit card number shortage
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Re: Japan facing credit card number shortage
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The problem with that is the purpose of a credit card system is convenience, especially the convenience involved in being able to represent the identifier in an easily compact manner. When it's a few groups of digits, I can print it onto a card or piece of paper, and just plug the digits in whenever I need to validate the number and run a transaction. You can't do that with a token. What happens when I want to use my…
Many of those use cases probably shouldn’t be supported. It would cut down on fraud if we disallowed card not present transactions on unknown devices.
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#64Beyond assigning IINs more judiciously, credit rating systems could drop the concept of "more accounts = better credit". It would discourage people from opening 7 credit cards to raise scores, when 1 or 2 would do.
I have 4 unused cards I keep open just for this, seems a complete waste for every body.
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> that I set online to exactly the amount I'm spending Sounds like it would take longer at checkout though?
Lots of my spending is online. Like everybody else, considering Amazon's success.
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#66This is a ridiculous story. Japan has a population of 150M. If you can't give folks a number from SIXTEEN digits - something is wrong with the folks giving out the numbers. Some answers to the excuses. The 6 digits at front, if a company legit runs out of numbers, ask for another prefix. The reality. Instead of using the numbers properly (random ID to tie to a user account) they are probably putting some kind of stru…
Wouldn't the Luhn algorithm checksum [1] limit the available digits? It is specifically there so a one-off error doesn't result in a charge going to a valid other account. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luhn_algorithm
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Only slightly more insane than keeping the handy 4x4 format, but extending it from base 10 numbers to base 16, which I would really love to see :D
They would need to EOL over-the-phone payments to do this. People have horrible diction and it's hard to tell the difference between b, c, d, and e when a particularly lazy lipped person says these letters (in addition to non-hex letters like g, p, t, and v). Then they use their own ambiguous phonetic system (b as in ball, c as in call, d as in doll will confuse anyone trying to distinguish between the three). Oh and…
Re: Japan facing credit card number shortage
#68This is a ridiculous story. Japan has a population of 150M. If you can't give folks a number from SIXTEEN digits - something is wrong with the folks giving out the numbers. Some answers to the excuses. The 6 digits at front, if a company legit runs out of numbers, ask for another prefix. The reality. Instead of using the numbers properly (random ID to tie to a user account) they are probably putting some kind of stru…
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Lots of my spending is online. Like everybody else, considering Amazon's success.
Ok... sounds like it would take longer at online checkout then.
Lets try to imagine a better future?
Re: Japan facing credit card number shortage
#70This is a ridiculous story. Japan has a population of 150M. If you can't give folks a number from SIXTEEN digits - something is wrong with the folks giving out the numbers. Some answers to the excuses. The 6 digits at front, if a company legit runs out of numbers, ask for another prefix. The reality. Instead of using the numbers properly (random ID to tie to a user account) they are probably putting some kind of stru…