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Post by feikname »

Polylactic_acid wrote: post #103
denzil_correa wrote: post #100

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It’s a standard quality measurement tactic in Internet based surveys. In the list of survey questions, you post a few question which have clear black or white answers. The answers from the survey takers will let you know to further investigate the the survey response. You can then decide to take actions accordingly. Most of the times, you discard.

Google had a surveys program where you could earn credits for the google play store and every now and then you would get a trap question usually formatted something like "Have you used x product" or "how well do you know x" where x does not exist. Anyone who answers incorrectly will see limited surveys in the future.

Not sure if they stopped using the trick questions or not but they still have the program. You can Download it in your phone from Play Store, it's called Google Rewards.

Re: Please read the paper before you comment

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Post by breakfastduck »

KTallguy wrote: post #69
Covzire wrote: post #40

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So you're saying we need a platform with both characters/post and post/day limits?! I mean... that's beautiful, because I created a second twitter account just so I can follow a select few people for the pretty much the same reason you gave without having to worry they're getting lost to the noise.

In lieu of browsing Twitter directly, I've been using this service lately: https://fraidyc.at/ It's great because I can just see what people I care about post, and you can arrange it so that the people who post infrequently but that you really care about will be in your face when they do post. I find it soothing, and I can't wait for a proper mobile release.

This is a really nice concept. I shall be signing up.

I quit Twitter recently due to the massive adverse impact it was having on my mental health. It essentially ended up personalizing every major bad thing happening in the world. I feel like I live on a significantly more peaceful planet since I stopped.

But I do miss the tech side, I used to follow a load of interesting people that I no longer see. I will add them on this!

Re: Please read the paper before you comment

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Post by twic »

mherdeg wrote: post #33

As a rule of thumb, I try not to quote from media unless I have seen the whole book/story/article/movie myself and am sure I understand the quotation in context. Part of that comes from the kind of frustration Hillel Wayne voices here: > People will offhand use famous quotes to support their arguments, when the context the quote was given in has nothing to do with it. I spent a lot of hours in high school debate list…

> intellectual societies decay as they begin to rely on secondary-source research (going to the library and reading what people have written about others' experiences, instead of going out there yourself and looking at stuff

I have to assume that Asimov was thinking about the course of history from the classical period through to the Enlightenment here, as it is conventionally told. Back in the day, the Greeks etc actually looked at things, and thought about them, and wrote down what they came up with. Some of it was good (mathematics), some bad (biology). But then at some point that stopped, and people relied entirely on the books the Greeks had written. Aristotle was the ultimate authority on natural science for centuries. Until the Enlightenment came along, and people started doing experiments and observations and exploration again.

I'm sure modern historians will fall over themselves to tell you this isn't true (it leaves out the Arabs, for a start, but it probably isn't even entirely true of Europe), but that's the story of history that Asimov would have known.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

samat wrote: post #157
pembrook wrote: post #135

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Job ads are universally filled with jargon-y HR copy-pasta bullshit, so I’m sure most people never read them on purpose. Instead of being clever, you’ve simply overestimated the importance of your ad in people’s lives while simultaneously optimizing for inexperienced people who’ve never read a job ad before and don’t know they are BS.

I don’t put PR bullshit in my vacancies and I write a lot of them. I respect my potential hires and expect them to respect me and at least read the damn thing. Unbelievable, right?

It's fine not to, but .. it would be interesting to read an example of two to see how they differ.

Re: Please read the paper before you comment

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Post by twic »

Tossrock wrote: post #13
burlesona wrote: post #3

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It’s a reasonable suggestion, but I would predict comment participation to plunge. Maybe that’s just fine?

It doesn't need to be one or the other. The quiz could be optional, and answering correctly would simply give your comments a rating boost - or inversely, you could put a badge of shame on any comments from people who hadn't passed the quiz. Then you just let the natural human dynamics play out.

Just collectively hellban everyone who fails.

Re: Please read the paper before you comment

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Post by breakfastduck »

rglullis wrote: post #77
Laremere wrote: post #50

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The social network I honestly want is something akin to the tradition of Christmas cards: a rare update (at most once a quarter) about how life is going with the option of attaching a few photos. No comments section, but instead a "I'd like to get in touch and chat sometime" button which helps schedule a video chat. No retweets, shares, engagement metrics.

I like the idea, but how is that different from a personal website/blog with private access?

Because the average joe won't know how to set up a private personal website / blog & many of us have friends outside to tech.

Re: Please read the paper before you comment

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

martin_a wrote: post #163
gmac wrote: post #146

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This is exactly what I’ve noticed lately. Is it a known/named phenomenon? Do you have a reference?

> Is it a known/named phenomenon? I think it's just called "journalism" these days. I find it hard to find publications without clickbaity stuff like this.

I'd say it's marketing/business rather than journalism, the journalism takes something of a back seat - like the role of music in hit factories.

Re: Please read the paper before you comment

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Post by cgrealy »

chrismorgan wrote: post #118
cgrealy wrote: post #48

Some years ago, Ars Technica ran a story on guns. https://arstechnica.com/science/2011/04/guns-in-the-home-lot... About halfway through a one-page article was this quote. "If you have read this far, please mention Bananas in your comment below. We're pretty sure 90% of the respondants to this story won't even read it first." Sure enough, there were about 3 pages of comments before someone mentioned bananas. Read the…

Alas, this time you haven’t read far enough! The author, on page four of the comments: https://arstechnica.com/science/2011/04/guns-in-the-home-lot... > yak8998 wrote: >> Haha, bravo Mr. Timmer. If IE search is working right, then apparently I am the first. I think its well over 90%... >> "bananas" > That was added after publication, so the first few dozen commenters wouldn't have seen it. Idea credit goes to our edi…

I did read that, and 40% is still a pretty low bar.

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

onetimemanytime wrote: post #85
iliketosleep wrote: post #72

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What it demonstrates is that people have already made up their mind on the topic and aren't genuinely interested in new perspectives. This helps explains the inflammatory nature of Internet debates in general.

a third of the title is enough, never mind the aticle ;) depends on the topic, an article isn't going to convince a political party supporter to switch sides for example.

>an article isn't going to convince a political party supporter to switch sides for example //

Why not? Are you suggesting articles can't carry information that changes peoples opinions; that people are wedded too much to Party identity; or perhaps that only one article wouldn't do it?

Re: Please read the paper before you comment

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Post by twic »

wittyreference wrote: post #60
tssva wrote: post #55

From the title this seems to be a violation of HN guidelines. "Please don't comment on whether someone read an article."

I wish the addendum to that rule was “because we will just delete their post anyway.” The lowest value contributions on HN are inevitably those that use a headline to air personal grievances vaguely related to the subject of the post (“Apple releases new cure for diabetes”, top comment: “Let me tell you why I hate the touchbar.”) the second lowest are those that clearly read the headline and ran with it, without read…

Surely the lowest of the low are "why is this on the front page?"?
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