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What Is the Small Web?

ar.al

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Re: What Is the Small Web?

#31
Appropriate all the good values and ideas from https://indieweb.org/, re-heat it add some feel-good word salad and we have this "Small Web".

Yes, by all means let's get back to a more decentralized and distributed web. But providing a service where you are still hosting your site on someone else's servers and on someone else's domain and calling for values is just digital green-washing.

Re: What Is the Small Web?

#32
Hey that's cool you're trying to bring back the "homepage". Don't go overboard with the vision and just execute on what we all know already makes sense.

Re: What Is the Small Web?

#33

Would a "small web" require giving up search, recommendation engines, upvotes, etc. Doesn't something like hn necessarily require centralization?

I think HN is still small web. It's custom-written by one or a few people, doesn't make money, isn't trying to take over the world.

It has "users" and they "rent" space on their servers and you don't own your data and it is censored and your activity can be mined - I think these are the main factors the article is interested in.

Re: What Is the Small Web?

#34

This is the same guy who ran that complete shambles of a vapourware project a few years back to build a smartphone right? This sounds exactly the same in that it's some vanity project under the guise of being indie or privacy focused but all he's really looking for is some more cash. I'd probably continue to steer well clear.

So he failed a project, an idea and a huge one at that with every possibility to fail.

There are so many ways to get money, I fail to see this route as a cash-grabbing attempt.

I, for one, like his ideas and attempts at building something with meaning. Even if he fails at every single project, the ideas are here and that's good, I guess.

At least we're talking about it around something, not just words.

Re: What Is the Small Web?

#35
post #18

I'm generally on board with the sentiment, but some of this rhetoric is a bit much, even for me. > The Big Web has “users” – a term Silicon Valley has borrowed from drug dealers to describe the people they addict to their services and exploit. Come on now, "user" as in "computer user" was a term in use since long before the web.

Ages ago I ran a small local community forum, very much small web and way before FAANG, and one 'user' was very upset having the tag 'user'.

They requested their account deleted. I deleted it.

The article is entirely confusing. The web is intrinsically 'small' - anyone can register a domain name and run a server. And link to Github, arguably more 'big' than 'Big Web' as defined in the article. iOS apps? Centralising around site.js?

Makes no sense.

As an independent owner of a few web properties, this provides a solution, and not much of a solution, to a problem that's entirely self-prescribed.

I also noted, as there's nothing like a needle in a haystack, small-tech.org is registered via 1api.net, never heard of them before despite

> 1API GmbH is one of Europe's s leading domain name registrars and is recognized as a preeminent developer of world-class domain name platforms. 1API currently manages more than 3,000,000 Domains.

Yet Terms of Service notes

> Prices. The prices charged to you for the Services are published on the Website (“Pricing Schedule”) and are subject to modifications at 1API’s sole discretion. Unless otherwise specified, all amounts are stated herein are in Canadian Dollars.

German-Canadian registrar. Interesting.

Re: What Is the Small Web?

#36
post #18

I'm generally on board with the sentiment, but some of this rhetoric is a bit much, even for me. > The Big Web has “users” – a term Silicon Valley has borrowed from drug dealers to describe the people they addict to their services and exploit. Come on now, "user" as in "computer user" was a term in use since long before the web.

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Re: What Is the Small Web?

#37

This is the same guy who ran that complete shambles of a vapourware project a few years back to build a smartphone right? This sounds exactly the same in that it's some vanity project under the guise of being indie or privacy focused but all he's really looking for is some more cash. I'd probably continue to steer well clear.

So he failed a project, an idea and a huge one at that with every possibility to fail. There are so many ways to get money, I fail to see this route as a cash-grabbing attempt. I, for one, like his ideas and attempts at building something with meaning. Even if he fails at every single project, the ideas are here and that's good, I guess. At least we're talking about it around something , not just words.

Try to find anything about any project he has done inbetween, somehow all those have disappeared off the internet too. Combine that with him at best ignoring, at worst publicly disparaging any other already existing project doing what he claims to do (over tiny perceived "faults", but at least those projects actually have working stuff), and it would be nice if he stuck to ideas and not even pretended to try anything. (His conference talks are surprisingly well-regarded, so if he gets people to think about this things - good)

Re: What Is the Small Web?

#39
Privacy and freedom of speech are threatened by INFRASTRUCTURE, not domains or tools. You can lose your freedom of speech because your hosting or your DNS/CDN provider terminates you (CloudFlare anyone?). That is the big web he is referring to. But I fail to see how his technological response addresses his concerns: TheSmallWeb offers no way to replace the current hosting mechanism, which is the single source of threat your website can currently suffer.

Re: What Is the Small Web?

#40
post #3

I’m not sure if I’m 100% sold on this. The service sounds like ( in their own terms ) “Big WEB” but the in a server that is... “owned”? By the user renting that server. Honestly it just sounds like every other server farm out there. Rent a server, put your data on it, hope the service doesn’t go down and trust that the company isn’t selling your data behind your back. Don’t get me wrong, I like the idea they propose.…

I don't get it, isn't it already easy to run your own server in a closet at home? You need a static IP (which is still very common, and getting easier with IPv6) and a linux box that is always plugged in.

It's less convenient that renting a VM or VPS somewhere and that is again less convenient than a fully managed web presence, but you can do it.

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