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Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Unless you specifically need the 8GB RAM (where Rpi 4 is the only contender in this range as of right now AFAIK), IMO for server use-cases it'd be better to consider either Odroid C4 or Rock Pi 4 - both offer better storage interfaces than USB/microSD natively. Also easier to run vanilla Debian/Ubuntu (or Armbian, which is very close to vanilla but can be easily built custom for either board preconfigured with necess…

I don't know if things have improved but traditionally every other alternative SBC had better hardware but was stuck in one image provided by the vendor that was never updated and buggy. Has the situation improved, i.e. can you just run apt upgrade on an Odroid C4? Can you run Arch on it?

I've run into that exact situation too.

The Pi is the only SBC with an excellent OS ecosystem.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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I am waiting for AMD based "NUC", because I don't want to give money to Intel. The reason I want a AMD based computer is to run vanilla Debian on it. Vanilla debian does not run on Raspberry unfortunately. Currently I'm running Odroid XU4, but I need more ram and horsepower.

Looks like Linus Tech Tips just posted an unboxing of one this morning.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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I tell yah there is nothing sadder than some poor CPA who has lost all of his client files and some of his baby's pictures when the Fusion Drive in his iMac failed (what a horrible piece of technology) only to discover that their backups are all bad because whenever the program kicked-in, it caused a failure mode on their cheap-azz third-party RAM DIMM that was otherwise unnoticed due to lack of ECC support. So when…

Let's combine two facts - virtually no consumer desktop, laptop, phone or tablet ships with ECC memory, yet somehow, nearly everyone is successfully using their computing devices for both pleasure and work, including backups. Yes, failures happen, but they are so incredibly rare that recommending people at home to buy ECC ram is in the same league as recommending getting a double PSU or a UPS for home use to prevent…

I don’t know where to find such data to support your “facts”. Perhaps Geek Genius Bar?

0.0001%? Did you just pull that out of your ass?

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's combine two facts - virtually no consumer desktop, laptop, phone or tablet ships with ECC memory, yet somehow, nearly everyone is successfully using their computing devices for both pleasure and work, including backups. Yes, failures happen, but they are so incredibly rare that recommending people at home to buy ECC ram is in the same league as recommending getting a double PSU or a UPS for home use to prevent…

I don’t know where to find such data to support your “facts”. Perhaps Geek Genius Bar? 0.0001%? Did you just pull that out of your ass?

Well, instead of trying to find data to support what I said, try to find data to support what you did maybe? My assertion is simple - virtually no consumer computing devices come with ECC ram, therefore it follows that ECC ram is not necessary to use, play with and work with computers every day. If your assertion is the opposite of that, then I'm willing to see data proving it. And of course 0.0001% was pulled out of my ass.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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There are good reasons not to use a raspberry pi as a server. But lack of ecc ram is not one of them.

Really? They discovered quarks at my university (I wrote the kernel mode code to handle the data bursts from our Cyclotron on sub-MIPS processors) and I have four decades of systems experience. So, what are your qualifications? Hmm?

cosmic/solar radiation (stray particles), voltage regulation and thermal conditions are the main causes of RAM errors. downvotes are popularity contest on Hacker “News”
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