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Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

#31

Post by mkl »

idoubtit wrote: post #11

I think the move of Kali Linux from bash to zsh is sane. I sometimes have to use the default shell of Linux distribution, especially on servers, and my main pain points with bash are: - The history is editable by default. If I move to a previous history line and change it, the old line disappears. Hitting Ctrl-c will remove it from the history. - If I use simultaneous shells (screen, tmux, or several ssh connections)…

> - The history is editable by default. If I move to a previous history line and change it, the old line disappears.

Press M-r to revert back to the original command.

> - No way to set a command aside. E.g. if I realise while typing that I'm not in the right directory, `git clonecd src`.

Press M-# to comment out the current command and go to a new prompt, then up to get the commented command back, and M-3 M-# to uncomment it and run it (any number works, but 3 is the same key as #).

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

#32

Post by mapolone »

idoubtit wrote: post #11

I think the move of Kali Linux from bash to zsh is sane. I sometimes have to use the default shell of Linux distribution, especially on servers, and my main pain points with bash are: - The history is editable by default. If I move to a previous history line and change it, the old line disappears. Hitting Ctrl-c will remove it from the history. - If I use simultaneous shells (screen, tmux, or several ssh connections)…

Not to mention:

- Oh-my-zsh has a lot of plugins for auto-completion

- FZF (fuzzy finder), for command history is a big hit (supports bash too)

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

#33

Post by mkl »

codetrotter wrote: post #28
idoubtit wrote: post #11

I think the move of Kali Linux from bash to zsh is sane. I sometimes have to use the default shell of Linux distribution, especially on servers, and my main pain points with bash are: - The history is editable by default. If I move to a previous history line and change it, the old line disappears. Hitting Ctrl-c will remove it from the history. - If I use simultaneous shells (screen, tmux, or several ssh connections)…

> E.g. if I realise while typing that I'm not in the right directory, `git clone cd src `. With bash I’d just Ctrl+a and type “cd src ;” and then press ctrl+e and continue typing what I was typing. I got so used to doing it that way, that even after switching to zsh I still do it this way. The disadvantage of my way of doing it is if you typo the path. But I tab complete pretty much always, so in practice I don’t hav…

If you use && instead of ; then you won't have the typo problem.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

#34

Post by Taek »

aww_dang wrote: post #23

Aren't the people who know and understand the tools they use, the same people who can install security utilities on any distro? What is the purpose of this distro in regards to that?

Less hassle. Plus if you are part of the community you get a better view on what tools are getting more prominent and what fixes or updates are being released.

I'm sure nobody who uses Kali needs it to exist, but that doesn't mean it doesn't add value.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

#35

Post by Taek »

ggm wrote: post #8

Fascinating that the conversation goes to zsh over bash. You'd think a decent Bluetooth risk tool was more relevant given the covid19 dependency on more bt always on and so more bt drive-by

I have to say this is the most disappointed I've been with a comment section in a while. Not that the comments are awful or in bad faith, it's just not got any of the topics I was hoping to read about.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

#36

Post by ti_ranger »

mapolone wrote: post #32
idoubtit wrote: post #11

I think the move of Kali Linux from bash to zsh is sane. I sometimes have to use the default shell of Linux distribution, especially on servers, and my main pain points with bash are: - The history is editable by default. If I move to a previous history line and change it, the old line disappears. Hitting Ctrl-c will remove it from the history. - If I use simultaneous shells (screen, tmux, or several ssh connections)…

Not to mention: - Oh-my-zsh has a lot of plugins for auto-completion - FZF (fuzzy finder), for command history is a big hit (supports bash too)

> - Oh-my-zsh has a lot of plugins for auto-completion

As does bash-completion, which is available in many (but not all :-/) Linux distros and via Homebrew on MacOS and [pre-dates](https://github.com/scop/bash-completion/tree/09b07d57a7031d9...) [oh-my-zsh](https://github.com/ohmyzsh/ohmyzsh/tree/5da20b9dddb1f7a91106...) by about 6 years.

But, zsh users and oh-my-zsh fan-boys seem to be entirely ignorant of bash-completion.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

#38

Post by sn41 »

ggm wrote: post #8

Fascinating that the conversation goes to zsh over bash. You'd think a decent Bluetooth risk tool was more relevant given the covid19 dependency on more bt always on and so more bt drive-by

A classic example of bikeshedding.

Re: Kali Linux 2020.3

#40

Post by sbarre »

ti_ranger wrote: post #36
mapolone wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to mention: - Oh-my-zsh has a lot of plugins for auto-completion - FZF (fuzzy finder), for command history is a big hit (supports bash too)

> - Oh-my-zsh has a lot of plugins for auto-completion As does bash-completion, which is available in many (but not all :-/) Linux distros and via Homebrew on MacOS and [pre-dates]( https://github.com/scop/bash-completion/tree/09b07d57a7031d9... ) [oh-my-zsh]( https://github.com/ohmyzsh/ohmyzsh/tree/5da20b9dddb1f7a91106... ) by about 6 years. But, zsh users and oh-my-zsh fan-boys seem to be entirely ignorant of bash-…

I never understand comments like these. Why do you have to twist this to be about "ignorant fan boys"?

Not enough drama in the world already?

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