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Are grains making us fat? If so, we should be much thinner than 1914.

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Re: Are grains making us fat? If so, we should be much thinner than 1914.

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I'm started speculating that there's another theory for the obesity epidemic, based on this recent study:

http://www.ausfoodnews.com.au/2011/04/08/coffee-and-fast-foo...

The key thing here is that we've been putting caffeine alongside saturated fat for quite a while - coffee and chocolate or pastries, burger/fries/soda, etc. Although one of these meals screws up our blood sugar for about 1/4th of the day, apparently that wasn't enough to make us fat by itself.

Then in the last 30-40 years we have the trend towards increased use of sweeteners and soft drink consumption, whose effect will be magnified among anyone consuming the sat-fat/caffeine combo. But low-carb diets work because the "sugar drink" of the study, given six hours later, never appears. In fact, low-carb diets will (from the dieter's perspective) reinforce their apparent effectiveness, as going off any fat-heavy diet will have exaggerated effects.

Re: Are grains making us fat? If so, we should be much thinner than 1914.

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In 1914 far more jobs involved physical labor, even house work. Also, there wasn't as much opportunity to consume excess calories in 1914. The killer combination today is sedentary lifestyles PLUS too much food PLUS the wrong sorts of foods.

Re: Are grains making us fat? If so, we should be much thinner than 1914.

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I'm started speculating that there's another theory for the obesity epidemic, based on this recent study: http://www.ausfoodnews.com.au/2011/04/08/coffee-and-fast-foo... The key thing here is that we've been putting caffeine alongside saturated fat for quite a while - coffee and chocolate or pastries, burger/fries/soda, etc. Although one of these meals screws up our blood sugar for about 1/4th of the day, apparently…

I can just imagine the future:

"So, kids, in 2020 it was discovered that X was making people fat. Before that, nobody knew that it had any adverse effects. In fact, they used it almost everywhere, from X, Y and Z to J."

Basically, they'll be talking about X the same way we talk about X-rays or DDT or whatnot.

Re: Are grains making us fat? If so, we should be much thinner than 1914.

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The theory is about total carbs, which includes sugar, potatoes, etc, not just grains. Strange to just focus on grains.

I thought that the theory was the simple carbs (e.g. sugars, refined grains) were worse offenders than complex carbs (e.g. potatoes).

Re: Are grains making us fat? If so, we should be much thinner than 1914.

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The theory is about total carbs, which includes sugar, potatoes, etc, not just grains. Strange to just focus on grains.

I thought that the theory was the simple carbs (e.g. sugars, refined grains) were worse offenders than complex carbs (e.g. potatoes).

I'm pretty sure that notion went out the window 3 decades ago, when your grandmother also told you not to go out in the cold or you'll catch a cold.

Potato starch is hydrolyzed extremely easily directly into glucose. In fact it has a far more rapid effect on blood sugar than regular sucrose does.

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