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Semi-transparent solar panels allow concurrent production of crops and power

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Re: Semi-transparent solar panels allow concurrent production of crops and power

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Nope. If the bag looks blue that means it's scattering away blue light while letting the rest through. So it's filtering (out) the blue. OP is right.

If you see blue on BOTH the outside of the bag and the inside, what does that mean? I’ve never thought of this.

It means some blue goes through, some is reflected.

Re: Semi-transparent solar panels allow concurrent production of crops and power

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A blue plastic bag filters most of the spectrum EXCEPT the blue part. Not the other way around. Simple proof: look inside, the light is blue. I guess the biggest problem for the plant here is that especially the infrared part of the sunlight is very important. Yellow leaves usually mean not enough light. Especially tomatoes need lots of sunlight.

Nope. If the bag looks blue that means it's scattering away blue light while letting the rest through. So it's filtering (out) the blue. OP is right.

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Re: Semi-transparent solar panels allow concurrent production of crops and power

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Not just crops and power. I know a guy whose startup is using transparent solar panels in Germany on eco-friendly buildings with grass on roofs, to get power and eco-cooling, as well as Oxygen production - at least that is how he explained it. The concept is called green-roofs. Unfortunately I don't remember his startup's name. A link with details about the concept, minus the use of transparent solar panels: https://…

The oxygen claim doesn't inspire confidence. Plants don't produce any useful amount of oxygen, and real scientists know that.

>>Plants don't produce any useful amount of oxygen, and real scientists know that.

Could you please add some context to this statement. It is hard to believe that the oxygen produced by plants is so negligible as to be useless. Why?

Re: Semi-transparent solar panels allow concurrent production of crops and power

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All of my plants this year have gotten blossom rot, pretty much too late to fix too. No tomatoes for me this year.

Blossom end rot is caused by calcium deficiency. Easiest solution for this is to just crush up egg shells and put them in and on top of the soil. I save my eggshells in a jar in the fridge for a few months prior to planting. It may be too late for this year but should work wonders for you in the future.

Not always. Sometimes it's because it's too hot at night.

Re: Semi-transparent solar panels allow concurrent production of crops and power

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So what on this earth is producing useful amounts of oxygen then?

Algae in the ocean, mostly. But also, any growing plants - you could compute for every kg of dry plant matter, how much oxygen is released, as the dry plant matter is almost entirely carbon produced from breaking up CO2. So unless you're collecting tens or hundreds of kilograms of dead plants from your roof every year, it isn't producing much oxygen.

This is why we won't solve climate change by simply planting trees. Planting trees is good but once the land is covered in trees like it was you can't go further. You have to start actively putting carbon underground so it doesn't end up in the air again.

Re: Semi-transparent solar panels allow concurrent production of crops and power

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My mother ayed tomatoes in the spring when it was still cool. She covered them with clear plastic bags as she always has. But she needed one more bag so she used a blue recycling bag on one of the plants. Blue tinged really it's almost clear. I pointed out to her one of the plants had yellow leaves. It was the plant with the blue bag. Later in the summer the blue bag plant produced fruit just like the other plants. B…

That slight colour blockage, or the tint those solar panels have is helpful. There are two reasons. One, plants grow better under red light. Red light has the highest efficiency for photosynthesis in plants, that why LED grow lights are tuned for certain wavelengths. Plants use blue light to know what direction to grow. And for a certain category of tints or dyes that are fluorescent, additional red light. Luminescen…

Is that why indoor LED growing lights have that purple-ish tint to them? I never knew that. I knew about the red, but never the blue. You're awesome. Thanks so much.

Re: Semi-transparent solar panels allow concurrent production of crops and power

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Nope. If the bag looks blue that means it's scattering away blue light while letting the rest through. So it's filtering (out) the blue. OP is right.

If you see blue on BOTH the outside of the bag and the inside, what does that mean? I’ve never thought of this.

As a guess, perhaps the unfiltered light that gets through goes through a phase change from being reflected. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflection_phase_change

Re: Semi-transparent solar panels allow concurrent production of crops and power

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post #180

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Nope. If the bag looks blue that means it's scattering away blue light while letting the rest through. So it's filtering (out) the blue. OP is right.

No, a blue filter, like a blue plastic bag would let blue pass and absorbe the other colors. That's why if you shine a white light through a blue filter, things look blue on the other side. Now, some of the blue light is scattered away, and that's why you see the plastic bag itself as blue.

Hang on, so if you shine a white light through a blue filter, the light on the other side looks blue. And the filter itself still looks blue on both sides. But then, where did the non-blue component of the light go?

Re: Semi-transparent solar panels allow concurrent production of crops and power

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post #180

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Nope. If the bag looks blue that means it's scattering away blue light while letting the rest through. So it's filtering (out) the blue. OP is right.

No, a blue filter, like a blue plastic bag would let blue pass and absorbe the other colors. That's why if you shine a white light through a blue filter, things look blue on the other side. Now, some of the blue light is scattered away, and that's why you see the plastic bag itself as blue.

Imagine looking at this blue-transparent bag with a red light, it will appear more opaque.
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