Goosing elderly senators with another red scare sure was a convenient pivot from having to defend his own social network.
Mark Zuckerberg Stoked Washington’s Fears About TikTok
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#62You know something is broken when the CEO of Facebook chooses to apply himself to lobbying the government to ban his competitors instead of building a better product.
In fairness, though, the CEO of Facebook hasn't built a better product in almost two decades. Instead, his company's growth has been based on brilliant (and occasionally very shady) acquisitions.
Brilliant ruthlessness brought us one of the most destructive tools on earth, disguised as a site for peace, love, cat content and happiness. There were a million different ways to design a communications tool for people that would have respected its users. I hope we will leave this decade with a sad, distant memory of facebook and its outlets.
BTW: I am sure we will see the end of facebook (and it's subsidies) in this decade. The power concentration is just too insane. If it does not implode itself, then even a weak government like the US will take action.
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#63It’s difficult to know what to make of Rupert Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal’s claim about Zuckerberg’s alleged claims about TikTok because I can’t read past the paywall.
But there are so many informed comments here on HN,I must be the only non-subscriber, yeah?
Can anyone post the article text?
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
In fairness, though, the CEO of Facebook hasn't built a better product in almost two decades. Instead, his company's growth has been based on brilliant (and occasionally very shady) acquisitions.
There was nothing brilliant about buying two obviously successful apps: Instagram and WhatsApp.
Everything about the Instagram acquisition was brilliant. Reminder that neither Instagram nor Facebook was making a profit at the time, and Instagram's $1B price tag was both very high at the time and minuscule in hindsight. 8 years later, Instagram is the platform that allows Facebook to still be mega successful.
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#65Why the US should support chinese companies and not US companies, if Facebook did it under the law I'm fine
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
In fairness, though, the CEO of Facebook hasn't built a better product in almost two decades. Instead, his company's growth has been based on brilliant (and occasionally very shady) acquisitions.
Facebook Marketplace is better than Craigslist. Buyers have a history by default ("On Facebook since 2009" etc) which is nice.
Wouldn't be more interested in how active the user has been over the last year? I haven't used my account for years but signed up a long time ago.
You can easily buy Facebook account which have been old but might not have been active for a long time. To me being on Facebook since 2009 is not really a great indicator for trust.
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#67Facebook is banned in China. Is it unreasonable to encourage US gvt to apply pressure for a more even playing field? I know the narrative (and majority of comments) like to hate on Zuck, so just adding another perspective for this particular situation.
Is it banned just because, or maybe it's not following local laws?
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#68Sort of a Frankenstein’s monster situation Zuckerberg created for himself. He took Bytedance’s money so they could plaster TikTok ads all over Facebook and Instagram back in 2018. TikTok pays its approved creators around $0.035 per 1,000 views. Maybe compete with that.
So a video with 100,000,000 views gets around $35,000? That seems low. A few searches suggest YouTube pays at least an order of magnitude more, depending on geo and engagement.
A better metric would be view minutes.
YT content length is very different. Also YT has substantially more drop offs than tiktok - it is lot harder to drop off in 15seconds .
Even if these were all equal bottom line is advertisers need to make money, i.e. how many people click on the ads and buy the product, some platforms just fundamentally have different demographics , App Store makes more money than Play Store for example, ads will be priced according to that.
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#69And they released Reels right when the executive order hits. Business and politics will forever go hand-in-hand.
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
In fairness, though, the CEO of Facebook hasn't built a better product in almost two decades. Instead, his company's growth has been based on brilliant (and occasionally very shady) acquisitions.
Facebook Marketplace is better than Craigslist. Buyers have a history by default ("On Facebook since 2009" etc) which is nice.
It requires you to have a Facebook account. This by definition makes it an inferior product.
I've been buying and selling stuff on Craigslist for years, never had a problem. If you're really paranoid about getting ripped off, do the transaction in the parking lot of your local police station.