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The demise of the second-hand bookshop

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Re: The demise of the second-hand bookshop

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If you're talking about piracy, do you only read books from dead authors? Or do you pay them via alternate channels? Or are you just fine with enjoying their content without paying them back a cent?

If we're talking about used bookstores, the author makes just as much on a pirated book as a book purchased at a used bookstore.

...we’re talking about public libraries.

Re: The demise of the second-hand bookshop

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One thing I appreciate about second-hand bookshops and libraries is that they are not curated for me. I read a lot of non-fiction, and I find that websites like Amazon and Goodreads do give decent suggestions, but they are books about topics I already know, sharing ideas I am already familiar with, in a style I like. I can feel the customer profit gradient descent maximization breathing down my neck. Looking at you,…

I agree, but I can also see a future of smaller web-based bookshops with specialised algorithms based on more uncommon, specialized parameters. Think "books about philosophy that used to be popular in the '70s".

If we're not seeing that in the present, I don't anticipate seeing it in the future. I see a future of monopolistic rentseekers continuing to make the least possible effort.

Re: The demise of the second-hand bookshop

#93

One thing I appreciate about second-hand bookshops and libraries is that they are not curated for me. I read a lot of non-fiction, and I find that websites like Amazon and Goodreads do give decent suggestions, but they are books about topics I already know, sharing ideas I am already familiar with, in a style I like. I can feel the customer profit gradient descent maximization breathing down my neck. Looking at you,…

My wife asks our teenage sons to send her Spotify links to music they like, so Spotify will start recommending songs she has already heard, or songs that sound a lot like all the songs she already listens to.

Re: The demise of the second-hand bookshop

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Anyone else find used books gross?

I wonder if it’s just a quirk/phobia of mine? Library books gross me out too.

How many page turns between butt wipes?! How many picked noses leaving through?

I never used to be bothered as a kid but this feeling has grown over the years culminating in a general ickiness.

The number one benefit of ebooks to me was that I could get old/cheap books that hadn’t, indeed, couldn't be handled by people.

it ain’t easy being weird!

Re: The demise of the second-hand bookshop

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The biggest joy of a second hand bookstore for me is much the same as my local library.

No attention-grabbing adverts. No video walls.

It is refreshingly relaxing to be able to drop the cognitive load of "anti-advert filtering" and simply look...

Re: The demise of the second-hand bookshop

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do realize that time will eventually grind down even the memory of every last thing you have ever known or loved, right?

Not necessarily... this rests on the assumption that God does not exist. And not everyone believes that assumption is true.

It relies on the assumption that time exists; see the posts on LessWrong about Timeless Physics:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/rrW7yf42vQYDf8AcH/timeless-p...

Re: The demise of the second-hand bookshop

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One thing I appreciate about second-hand bookshops and libraries is that they are not curated for me. I read a lot of non-fiction, and I find that websites like Amazon and Goodreads do give decent suggestions, but they are books about topics I already know, sharing ideas I am already familiar with, in a style I like. I can feel the customer profit gradient descent maximization breathing down my neck. Looking at you,…

I absolutely agree with this. It's one reason why I love to browse libraries and bookshops, even big-box ones. I browse multiple sections and can just about always find something new that seems interesting that I wouldn't have found earlier. It's also part of what I miss about having access to a quality university library. The amount of high quality non-fiction, across a wide range of subjects, was just astounding and I used to spend hours there just browsing and skimming through books.

Re: The demise of the second-hand bookshop

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post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If we're talking about used bookstores, the author makes just as much on a pirated book as a book purchased at a used bookstore.

...we’re talking about public libraries.

If we were, we would also be talking about a way to read books that the author doesn't make a dime on.

Re: The demise of the second-hand bookshop

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Yet the japanese second hand book/game/CD/DVD/hadware company Book Off is as successfull as ever, with stores pretty much everywhere in Japan and starting to expand overseas: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_Off Its really an amazing rxperience there - clean orderly stores with bright illumination jam packed by books at lidiculously low prices & you can find total gems there if you look for a while - like the fir…

I would be interested to know how much the Book Off model depends on the fact that manga is a huge market in Japan. Every time I've been into a Book Off, there's always been a huge manga section and it's always packed with people because (a) manga is really popular and (b) they don't shrinkwrap the manga to prevent people reading them in the shop the way a lot of places do. In a market like the UK or US where (comics…

Manga is certainly big part of it, but there was always a sizeable "text only" section as well - 20-30% maybe ? Manga 40-50% I would guess. And indeed, no shrinkwrapping (only exception - the 1000 yen series bundles, but thereit was for practical purposes :) ) and you can see a lot people reading at any time.

And its kinda necessary to find what your are lokking for, especially if you are a foreigner with shaky levels of reading Japanese. :) Also you can find interesting stuff you did not know existed just by picking a random book and looking inside. More so as each Book Off store seems to have different gems hidden inside - we visited quite a few (Kagoshima, Kawasaki, Akihabara) and each one had something special. :)

Re: The demise of the second-hand bookshop

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A couple of years ago one of our local shops closed down, and in the end, they threw away tons of books - as in metric tons. They had a couple of weeks where people could basically just come in and take whatever they wanted, but still, tons of leftovers.

I have fond memories of those shops, but, they had their quirks. Inventory systems were typically non-existent, and some of those shops were a mess.

But you know, even those things had their charm. Reminds me of the older mom'n pop stores and shops that didn't have the 100% cleanliness or neatness of modern big-box stores, where everything has been designed and optimized to perfection, and just looks...sterile. The modern stuff is excellent when your only goal is to go in, find your stuff, and get out - as fast as possible. But it's not that great when you just want to exploring/treasure hunting.

The old and unorganized stuff was great for that - treasure hunting. You didn't get the flippers or re-sellers that would swoop in 9AM on a daily basis to get the most valuable stuff, because their inventory trackers had notified them that store XYZ just got in rare item ABC.

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