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Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by gsich »

georgespencer wrote: post #350
gsich wrote: post #348

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>You seem to be doing real contortions to try to make this fit your argument, but it doesn't. It does. >Here's another easy disproof: YouTube Premium costs £11.99 on the YouTube website, and £15.99 IAP on the iOS app store right now. If you are Google, you get a free pass. It's simple. Look at the recent Wordpress desaster or Hey. Apple doesn't allow showing that you can subscribe somewhere else, in no app, unless yo…

Let me just surface yet another clear piece of evidence of how wrong you are: Phil Schiller literally suggested that HEY should charge different prices on the web and in-app. [1]: > Schiller says that there are a number of decisions about how to charge customers that Basecamp could have made to make the app acceptable under current rules. He lists several, including charging different prices in the app and on the web…

>Funny that two replies ago your argument leaned on Spotify entirely, and now you want them to be ignored ;)

You presented forum posts from random users as if they were from Spotify. ;)

>Neither HEY nor WordPress was charging more online than in the app store. HEY is actually yet another example of you being totally wrong and contorting yourself. Look at this[2] letter from the CEO of HEY.

Wordpress didn't charge anything, it was to control Wordpress instances via their XML-API. Apple just thought "hey they link to some site to which you can buy stuff, lets force them to IAP". This right there is insanity.

>{Citation Needed.} You have offered nothing to support this view.

Your own Spotify link. Spotify getting rejected for app changes. This is insanity.

Also, the whole Epic case. Even if they would have just showed a "pay less here ". Insanity.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by georgespencer »

gsich wrote: post #351
georgespencer wrote: post #350

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me just surface yet another clear piece of evidence of how wrong you are: Phil Schiller literally suggested that HEY should charge different prices on the web and in-app. [1]: > Schiller says that there are a number of decisions about how to charge customers that Basecamp could have made to make the app acceptable under current rules. He lists several, including charging different prices in the app and on the web…

>Funny that two replies ago your argument leaned on Spotify entirely, and now you want them to be ignored ;) You presented forum posts from random users as if they were from Spotify. ;) >Neither HEY nor WordPress was charging more online than in the app store. HEY is actually yet another example of you being totally wrong and contorting yourself. Look at this[2] letter from the CEO of HEY. Wordpress didn't charge any…

> You presented forum posts from random users as if they were from Spotify. ;)

You said: if Spotify could charge more, they would.

Spotify said: we did charge more, and then we decided to stop doing it.

Keep backflipping dude!

> Wordpress didn't charge anything, it was to control Wordpress instances via their XML-API. Apple just thought "hey they link to some site to which you can buy stuff, lets force them to IAP". This right there is insanity.

Literally nothing to do with our discussion which is about your bogus assertion that apps are forbidden from differential pricing.

> Your own Spotify link.

Unless you're illiterate (increasingly possible!), my Spotify link indicates that Spotify chose to stop differential pricing.

Classic example of cognitive dissonance: ignoring Phil Schiller, the guy who is literally in charge of the app store, telling you that you are wrong ;)

Oh dear mate.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by gsich »

georgespencer wrote: post #352
gsich wrote: post #351

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Funny that two replies ago your argument leaned on Spotify entirely, and now you want them to be ignored ;) You presented forum posts from random users as if they were from Spotify. ;) >Neither HEY nor WordPress was charging more online than in the app store. HEY is actually yet another example of you being totally wrong and contorting yourself. Look at this[2] letter from the CEO of HEY. Wordpress didn't charge any…

> You presented forum posts from random users as if they were from Spotify. ;) You said: if Spotify could charge more, they would. Spotify said: we did charge more, and then we decided to stop doing it. Keep backflipping dude! > Wordpress didn't charge anything, it was to control Wordpress instances via their XML-API. Apple just thought "hey they link to some site to which you can buy stuff, lets force them to IAP".…

>Spotify said: we did charge more, and then we decided to stop doing it.

Yes, because they couldn't charge more. People wouldn't accept it, so they blamed Spotify instead of Apple, because they weren't allowed to. Of course they can't do differential pricing if they aren't allowed to show that.

>Literally nothing to do with our discussion which is about your bogus assertion that apps are forbidden from differential pricing.

Well it is. In reverse of course, because Apple thought that they'd lose revenue.

>Classic example of cognitive dissonance: ignoring Phil Schiller, the guy who is literally in charge of the app store, telling you that you are wrong ;)

Also the guy who is responsible for that. Hey, Wordpress, Spotify, Netflix, Microft. They are all "wrong". He is the leader of the insane asylum.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by LeonB »

scarface74 wrote: post #293
donatzsky wrote: post #229

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I'm pretty sure they used to require uniform pricing. I remember Spotify getting in trouble for having different prices in the app. But that was several years ago. B2B apps are exempt from the the IAP requirements.

Spotify didn’t get “into trouble” for doing this. They did that for years.

They took Apple to court. There’s a huge battle over it. It’s been quite troublesome!
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