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The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Post by lanterk »

rapind wrote: post #189
29083011397778 wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last month my Fido bill was $21.11 CAD for both my girlfriend's (4Gb) and my (3Gb) plan. Due to a variety of factors, including (read: entirely due to) generous CS reps, both are heavily discounted. Note these are data-only plans, without SMS or calling. We use the Acrobits softphone (iPhone) or the built-in voip client (de-Googled Android) with voip.ms for - Voice calls - SMS/MMS (in-app, forwarded to any cell numbe…

You got some pretty great discounts according to https://www.fido.ca/nac/choose-plan?type=byod Isn't Fido Toronto only or have they changed that? (it's been a while since I checked) Also worth mentioning is this marketing thing where each of the major carriers own several cheap carriers. E.g. Roger's has: Fido, Chatr, Cityfone, Primus, Zoomer, and SimplyConnect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_mobile_p…

Fido has Data-only 4GB "tablet" plans for $10. You do need another existing Fido plan though.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Post by lanterk »

Sebb767 wrote: post #140
geodel wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, But I have seen the opposite effect of cheap internet there. People spend lot of time in spread hatred, fake news and animosity using internet service. I have seen this first hand with so many of my educated friends and relatives who were reasonable folks before internet boom and now they come across caricature of dimwit person. With so much information available on internet they still chose to pick lowest qua…

This might be true (it appears we have similar people in the western world). However, I think you're being downvoted because it seems you're advocating less internet access in the hopes of more equality. It brings up an interesting question, though: Assuming for the moment that internet access actually increases hatred - is more hate towards a group a good tradeoff for empowering them by giving them internet access a…

That's not really an Internet issue, and more the idea that moderation of hateful content is "censorship". It would be the same in public if people couldn't be kicked off premises going on disruptive hateful rants.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Post by cscurmudgeon »

cscurmudgeon wrote: post #159
inetknght wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rent. American businesses love extracting rent.

Salaries are much higher in the US. Don’t reduce complex economics to simplistic sound bites. Look up PPP.

Downvoted without any argument for a valid counterpoint. This site is going downhill with low information posts.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Post by lanterk »

takeda wrote: post #119
rsynnott wrote: post #24

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Beyond the usual arguments about "the US is big", poor competition is probably a big part of it. US telcos have a lot of lockin, with very long contract lengths, poor acceptance of prepaid plans, and "family plans" being common. All of this makes it less likely that people will move network, so there's less incentive for telcos to actually compete on price. EDIT: On the "US is big" point, it's notable that pricing do…

The lack of competition is the actual reason. When Google was entering markets with their Internet service suddenly incumbents got capacity to provide competitive speed at slightly lower price. Essentially causing Google to give up with that initiative. If a company with "unlimited" amount of money like Google can't enter to compete, no one can. And if there is no competition, you no longer charge competitive prices,…

Similarly, here in Canada, after Bell's UBB plan (forcing TPIAs to the same restrictive 25GB cap as the telcos) fell through, they wasted no time coming up with unlimited plans.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Post by cromulent »

Finland at 87, Australia at 16. Hilarious.

I came to Finland from Australia and asked what the limit was. 40Mb/s I was told (quite some years ago).

No, per month.

They didn't understand the question. There are no limits. 40Mb/s, times the number of seconds in a month.

Quick check: Optus is 10AUD per GB extra on all the plans. They don't mention the speed, of course.

This is a bad piece of research.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Post by dang »

5G4G3G wrote: post #277

This article is terrible. It’s a classic example of garbage in, garbage out. The analysis is egregiously wrong, the methodology terrible and the source data isn’t available. This really belongs in the trash bin. EDIT: I dare downvoters to speak up. It’s not like I’m wrong.

The problem is that a comment like this is mostly just calling names and the rest of it is just empty claims without explaining anything, such as why the analysis is wrong.

It's great if you see things that others don't, but when posting here, please provide real information that others can learn from. Just fulminating about how bad something is—even when you're right—only makes the thread worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Post by nisse72 »

RantyDave wrote: post #363
nisse72 wrote: post #95

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Sounds a bit high? Vodafone NZ offers 300 GB of 4G broadband for $73 at the moment.

That's just broadband though. My phone is my sole internet connection these days. We live in the future.

My phone has also been my sole internet connection for the last 12 years.

What I don't get is they are selling wireless broadband at the price I mention above, but if you buy what is essentially the same product as part of a phone plan instead (i.e. they've simply packaged it differently), you pay something along the lines of 10x or 20x the price per GB.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Post by NorwegianDude »

The numbers for Norway makes no sense at all. Cheapest is supposedly $0.62, but you can get 1GB for less than $0.0046, if you pay for unlimited usage and coverage is good so you can average 200 Mbps.

And the average is much too low for 1GB if this was supposed to not include transfer as part of a larger package.

Either way, the numbers makes absolutely no sense.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

amingilani wrote: post #47

Not all Internet experiences are equal though. 1 GB of internet in Pakistan ($0.69) ≠ 1 GB of internet in Canada ($12.55). I would gladly trade my Pakistani internet plan for my Canadian internet plan. Last month, when I was in Pakistan, my experience was: + highly censored to the point where even services like Cloudflare's edge-node's within the country were being MiTM-ed by the censors [0]; + I couldn't use "any mo…

Pakistan and PayPal is really a special case. It has nothing to with the telecoms infrastructure and everything do with a legal dispute between the government of Pakistan and PayPal. PayPal is not available in Turkey, either, for similar reasons.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Post by frereubu »

londev wrote: post #231
amingilani wrote: post #47

Not all Internet experiences are equal though. 1 GB of internet in Pakistan ($0.69) ≠ 1 GB of internet in Canada ($12.55). I would gladly trade my Pakistani internet plan for my Canadian internet plan. Last month, when I was in Pakistan, my experience was: + highly censored to the point where even services like Cloudflare's edge-node's within the country were being MiTM-ed by the censors [0]; + I couldn't use "any mo…

I’m currently travelling through Italy and I can have full strength 4G but almost no data connectivity. I don’t know how anyone manages to use their data allowance here.

Depends on where you are of course - a friend of mine sent me a speedtest screenshot amused at how his download speed on a mobile connection in northern Italy was ten times faster (literally) than his ADSL connection in south London!
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