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Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by mro_name »

kev_da_dev wrote: post #42
genmon wrote: post #22

I'm pleased to see renewed interest in RSS (web feeds generally). But my concern is that, for first time users, the onboarding process is too complex. There are too many unexplained steps, and the benefits are unclear. A plug for my own answer to this: I recently launched https://aboutfeeds.com -- a one pager "getting started" guide aimed at first-time users of web feeds/RSS. The goal is to have it linked next to eve…

I completely agree genmon! RSS / web feeds are a bit hard to grok for the average user. My belief is that, in order for RSS / ATOM to really catch on, we need to completely abstract those concepts for the end-user. In my opinion, getting people to care about RSS / ATOM is like getting them to care about HTTP. They do not care about the actual mechanisms - only the end result. That being said, I think all we're missin…

uh, I think "abstracting away concepts" is the base for enduring cluelessness and thus dependencance.

Still the UX has to be excellent. As you wouldn't abstract the fact of a sharp edge off a knife. Still the grip has to be very different from the sharp edge. It's 2 things that have to balance to make sense. The worse limits the result.

No user ever is bothered with Atom spec technicalities, is it?

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by phre4k »

altindag wrote: post #31
mindfulhack wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It especially does because people think that being against 'Chinese apps' like TikTok is 'sinophobia', when really we love Chinese people it's just the government we don't trust. So it really does makes it special to see those Chinese characters in that README. I want to see more of that. But I also immediately feel concern. I hope this Shanghai developer is not targeted, bullied, or persecuted in any way like having…

I think this is bullshit. It's like saying, "I'm not racist, my friend Bob is black." You don't get a "get outta jail free" card for saying "I love CHinese people" and "oorah for China devs" and then heaping shit all over their country's achievements the rest of the time. Do people who say this think they understand China or Chinese people even a little bit?

As soon as I hit 'send' on my message I knew someone would agree because more people in FOSS is a great thing, but someone else would find a way to make the followup comment look racist.

It sucks that I can't even say 'I love Asians' without being tagged as racist. It sucks that I can't have prejudice against or for some people. We are not all equal, and if you pretend we are, YOU are racist. I recommend the sketch 'I don't see race' by collegehumor: https://youtu.be/5qArvBdHkJA

I repeat what I said countless times the past few years: A country is not its people. Even if you pretend it's a democracy.

That said, I hate America for ruining the world's economy and environment. I love most Americans though. Hang in there.

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by phre4k »

mindfulhack wrote: post #34
altindag wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this is bullshit. It's like saying, "I'm not racist, my friend Bob is black." You don't get a "get outta jail free" card for saying "I love CHinese people" and "oorah for China devs" and then heaping shit all over their country's achievements the rest of the time. Do people who say this think they understand China or Chinese people even a little bit?

> and then heaping shit all over their country's achievements the rest of the time. I didn't say that anywhere. China's achieved a lot, in amazing ways. My comment said nothing about that. > Do people who say this think they understand China or Chinese people even a little bit? - Have you been to China, invited by their government in an official delegation and seen first-hand the mob-like lack of distinction between…

I think you misunderstood.

You're racist because a racist said so. We're all equal.

https://youtu.be/5qArvBdHkJA

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by phre4k »

ddorian43 wrote: post #16
mindfulhack wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It especially does because people think that being against 'Chinese apps' like TikTok is 'sinophobia', when really we love Chinese people it's just the government we don't trust. So it really does makes it special to see those Chinese characters in that README. I want to see more of that. But I also immediately feel concern. I hope this Shanghai developer is not targeted, bullied, or persecuted in any way like having…

I always see this, we love the people but not the government. Is there a case where we hate the people ? Are people as a collective harmless.l ?

Racists exist. They hate people.

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by phre4k »

nirui wrote: post #23
phre4k wrote: post #12

I just love that Asian developers finally 'discovered' the English speaking FOSS community. A lot of the software I use and contribute to has gained many contributors from China, Singapore and Japan through the last 1-2 years. It really warms my heart to see that FOSS knows less and less borders :)

On the other hand, if an Asian developer uses English by default, then you probably wouldn't notice them :P

Asians should not forget their roots. I love to see docs and READMEs in more than one language!

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by phre4k »

robjan wrote: post #21
phre4k wrote: post #12

I just love that Asian developers finally 'discovered' the English speaking FOSS community. A lot of the software I use and contribute to has gained many contributors from China, Singapore and Japan through the last 1-2 years. It really warms my heart to see that FOSS knows less and less borders :)

English is the primary language in Singapore

Yes, and there are more developers on Github from Singapore now than a few years ago (in my perception).

I wonder what platform they used before but I don't know any of them personally. I only read their Github bios.

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by phre4k »

rawfan wrote: post #20
phre4k wrote: post #12

I just love that Asian developers finally 'discovered' the English speaking FOSS community. A lot of the software I use and contribute to has gained many contributors from China, Singapore and Japan through the last 1-2 years. It really warms my heart to see that FOSS knows less and less borders :)

Me, too. Seafile is another good example. Gogs was great nbut the sbdfl went awol too often. Its fork Gitea still has many Chinese devs, though and is one of my favorite projects with Asian roots.

What's a sbdfl?

I used Seafile and it's great but it has a pretty hard paywall.

Gitea is just great. In conjunction with Drone it's the most elegant CI/CD platform I know.

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by phre4k »

numpad0 wrote: post #35
phre4k wrote: post #12

I just love that Asian developers finally 'discovered' the English speaking FOSS community. A lot of the software I use and contribute to has gained many contributors from China, Singapore and Japan through the last 1-2 years. It really warms my heart to see that FOSS knows less and less borders :)

Took me a while to get this one — so people from communist China don’t cover their origins, for they’re from a completely isolate culture or being bold in a way, or whatever, and put Chinese readme high up and front, or talk in clearly Chinese grammar, whereas other non-European devs tries to stay under the radar and blend in as a generic non-native English speaker. Isn’t that it? I mean, I’m a Japanese but how I not…

If I see more than one language in a repo or the developers' names sound foreign to me, I'm more likely to check out their profile.

I always love to find out more about (development) culture in other parts of the world. Can you elaborate a bit on how it's 'bold' to use your own language in a README or docs? Do you find it annoying?

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by ddorian43 »

phre4k wrote: post #65
ddorian43 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always see this, we love the people but not the government. Is there a case where we hate the people ? Are people as a collective harmless.l ?

Racists exist. They hate people.

I'm not talking about races. Mostly big groups, like countries, which don't have to be races.
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