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The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Israeli here, pay 7$ for 200GB of data (well I pay 14$ for 400GB and use one as home internet backup because it is cheap). It used to be quite expensive here at around $100/mo for 10GB but the government broke up the monopoly and forced competition into the market by making existing players share infrastructure. We went up from main 3 providers to around 10 and prices dropped sharply. My government screws up quite a…

Amazing what competition does

Competition didn't do it. For years. Regulation did, and in something like 2 months.

The coolest part? All those threats about "companies will leave a highly regulated market" never materialized.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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I live on Finland and I've got unlimited everything for 16,9€/month. This includes calls, sms and 200mbps LTE data. There is no data caps (not even throttling, since that would be against the law) and I've had months with 400+gb data transferred, no issues.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Taiwanese here, I think Taiwan's data is inaccurate. Our mobile carriers have a "unlimited" plan, which you can actually use unlimited data. The price of the plan varies a lot, but my unlimited plan only costs 499TWD/m(16.9USD/m), and I use nearly 50GB per mounth. But I'd like to mention there is no such as unlimited texts here, only unlimited data. I think this is why SNS is preferred over SMS and iMessage.

Hmm, that’s interesting. Why is there no unlimited texting?

Here in Italy lots of plans actually stopped offering unlimited SMS because nobody uses them anymore. I think I must have sent less than 10 SMS in the last 5 years or so.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are significantly more MVNOs on Telstra than there are on Vodafone -- I think you'd be surprised how many more. I would hazard this is because there's a giant legislated fence down the middle of Telstra (referred to as "structural separation") that literally demands that Telstra's retail and wholesale divisions not talk to one another. On a tangent related to that, though, I am very confused about exactly how A…

I think one of the main reasons it strong oversight of the sector by both the ACCC and Telecommunications watchdog. It took a long time to force this, but aggressive competition by regional ISPs (especially Internode and iiNet) forced Telstra to allow access to their ADSL network, and once that was in these and other companies used similar tactics to force open other markets. Optus aggressively used MVNOs to build ma…

I would suspect genuine regulated competition is the correct answer here (as you spell out). This is in contrast to the monopolies and corruption seen elsewhere. The customer service is still horrible, and NBN remains a disaster.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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I'm Italian and I pay ~9 euros per month for 130 GB of uncapped 4G mobile Internet, so I can't really complain about it. Some new offers I've seen are as low as 6.99 for 100 GB + infinite calls. A few days ago I told this to a friend of mine who lives in the UK and he was shocked because he pays a lot more for like 2GB a month. I guess healthy competition can really be good for consumers when it works as it is suppos…

Which operator ? I'm interested.

If you get the right winback or operator attack promotions you can get amazing deals with the major MNOs.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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There are a lot of mobile players who lease towers though, and prices are still high.

I wasn't talking about mobile, although given that article is about mobile, my bad I didn't clarify. I meant about wired Internet access. Running 10 wires to your house to have access to 10 ISPs is expensive and it's also a nightmare for the city. It is extremely wasteful because most people will only use one of them at the time. That's why requirement to lease is essential (ideally it should be a different entity th…

> I meant about wired Internet access. Running 10 wires to your house to have access to 10 ISPs is expensive and it's also a nightmare for the city. It is extremely wasteful because most people will only use one of them at the time.

In Paris, you don't need to run separate cables into a building for each ISP. Orange Telecom owns the infrastructure and leases it out to the different ISPs. They then share the cables but have different end point hardware where the main trunk lines hook into the apartment buildings. Perhaps this is different in other residential communities, but from what I gather, once the infrastructure and wiring is in place, consumers can switch between ISPs and need only switch modems. Switching from Orange to another ISP would not need rewiring.

My only problem with this "natural monopoly" method is it ensures a minimum price, which is not really decided by competition, but more likely on the return on cost to wire the country for fiber as agreed on with the government who owns 23% of the company. Then there's a lot of skullduggery with contracts (e.g. first 3 months for $19.99 then it shoots up to $50, some ISPs have 6-month contracts, others are month to month with no penalty if you disconnect).

France does a lot of things like this, which makes sense when dealing with national infrastructure, but it doesn't quite do the consumer justice when the ISPs are rentiers selling bandwidth. I can only imagine how quickly it will take them to recoup their costs of wiring fiber.

I bet the US could benefit a lot by sharing infrastructure, but it doesn't necessarily mean all will be perfect.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Israeli here, pay 7$ for 200GB of data (well I pay 14$ for 400GB and use one as home internet backup because it is cheap). It used to be quite expensive here at around $100/mo for 10GB but the government broke up the monopoly and forced competition into the market by making existing players share infrastructure. We went up from main 3 providers to around 10 and prices dropped sharply. My government screws up quite a…

In Israel the caller pays for a mobile call, while in other countries the owner of the mobile pays. This one change alone is enough to explain quite a bit of the disparity in prices. I'm actually surprised the source article makes no mention of this.

I think this is the case in most countries besides the US.

And (at least in Israel and the UK, and probably others, but not the US), you can identify a mobile number by the prefix, so you know what you're getting yourself into by placing the call.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Not all Internet experiences are equal though. 1 GB of internet in Pakistan ($0.69) ≠ 1 GB of internet in Canada ($12.55). I would gladly trade my Pakistani internet plan for my Canadian internet plan. Last month, when I was in Pakistan, my experience was: + highly censored to the point where even services like Cloudflare's edge-node's within the country were being MiTM-ed by the censors [0]; + I couldn't use "any mo…

Yes, but you are clearly cherrypicking data. 1Gb of internet in Australia ($0.68) is fantastic value compared to 1Gb of internet in Canada ($12.55). Australia's mobile data network is competitive on quality, and is amongst the fastest in the world.

They are clearly limiting their commentary to personal experience, something I can't believe you're trying to spin into being controversial.

Re: The cost of 1GB of mobile data in 228 countries (Feb 2020)

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Not all Internet experiences are equal though. 1 GB of internet in Pakistan ($0.69) ≠ 1 GB of internet in Canada ($12.55). I would gladly trade my Pakistani internet plan for my Canadian internet plan. Last month, when I was in Pakistan, my experience was: + highly censored to the point where even services like Cloudflare's edge-node's within the country were being MiTM-ed by the censors [0]; + I couldn't use "any mo…

I’m currently travelling through Italy and I can have full strength 4G but almost no data connectivity. I don’t know how anyone manages to use their data allowance here.

They're probably not using a UK plan.
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