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Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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I have a MacBook and it’s great, I also have an iPhone. It’s the business model that matters to me more. It’s not a “hate on big companies” thing. In fact the big software companies usually have better security (google included) because they have some of the world’s best security people. I try to avoid companies that have an incentive to collect user information for ad targeting. Apple doesn’t have that (and they’ve…

Apple's privacy protecting actions only apply in countries where they can go through with it. Here's one example where they can't protect your privacy. [1] [1] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-apple-icloud-insigh...

Yeah I'm with you there, I find western companies making exceptions for China pretty unethical and upsetting: https://zalberico.com/essay/2020/06/13/zoom-in-china.html

I think it's wrong and something they shouldn't do.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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Same here: Migrated all my gmail accounts to Fastmail. Took me two days. Migrated Google Docs to Dropbox. And replaced Google Sheets and Doc with a Microsoft subscription (MS Word and MS Excel). Then there‘s the search engine. I tried hard to replace Google Search with DDG, but I have to admit that Google gives me better search results. Still I would love to leave this also behind. Finally there is youtube for me. Ai…

Fastmail also wants a phone number. I no longer know what mail service to use apart from setting it all up myself.

mailbox.org does not require a phone number. It also includes its own calendar sync and online office suite(although I've never really tried the office functionality myself).

I've been using it for a few years now and I can't complain.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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post #56

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Same here: Migrated all my gmail accounts to Fastmail. Took me two days. Migrated Google Docs to Dropbox. And replaced Google Sheets and Doc with a Microsoft subscription (MS Word and MS Excel). Then there‘s the search engine. I tried hard to replace Google Search with DDG, but I have to admit that Google gives me better search results. Still I would love to leave this also behind. Finally there is youtube for me. Ai…

Fastmail also wants a phone number. I no longer know what mail service to use apart from setting it all up myself.

I like protonmail myself, take a look at that.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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People have been raising flags about this for literally decades now and the other shoe has yet to drop in any kind of meaningful way. Everyone is tracking you online, but for some reason we only care about it when its companies that make good products that we like to use. Would you rather they not target you with ads and sell google searches for a nickel each? Meanwhile, I had an ad in my gmail yesterday for Google F…

>People have been raising flags about this for literally decades now and the other shoe has yet to drop in any kind of meaningful way. The threat model I work off is "fascist government seizes power in the United States and sequesters all data for all citizens from the top 15 large corporations". Then they get to work weeding out undesirables. This would happen, I'd estimate, in the space of about a month although if…

Sure, but if that happens... I think we're fucked either way?

I think any providers would be just as susceptible (maybe more so; Google ostensibly has the means to protect data, legally and technologically), and your data would already be on Google's servers unless you only emailed or chatted with other non-Google users.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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I would love to see a similar list for de-Apple-ing. Apple's anticompetitive and monopolistic practices with the App Store, the terrible direction MacBooks have taken, its price gouging on hardware... the list goes on. Google is saintly by comparison.

Plus Apple makes devices that harm the environment by being hard to repair by design.

edit: It's a well known, documented fact that Apple hardware is hostile towards the environment. Your downvote wont change that.

Re: Degoogle: Cutting Google out of your life

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Have context? Algolia search isn't working well for me, or I don't know which keywords would lead me to the story.

Here's a story from The Reg in 2015: https://www.theregister.com/2015/03/13/google_developer_gtld... They quote from Google's application for .dev in 2013: "The proposed gTLD will provide Google with direct association to the term 'dev', which is an abbreviation of the word 'development'. The mission of this gTLD, .dev, is to provide a dedicated domain space in which Google can enact second-level domains specific to…

> (Google also added .dev to the HSTS preload list so browsers expect names in that domain to only be reachable via HTTPS, thus breaking in-house uses of .dev.)

Anyone using .dev for that was already broken per the spec. There are TLDs for those cases, they are .test, .local and .invalid.

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