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Re: Ask HN: What non-obvious tech/market may take off in the next few years?

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Post by kevindong »

skmurphy wrote: post #118

Privacy - Duck Duck Go may overtake Google at some point. Better Email management tools, use existing transport but allow you to manage 1,000 to 10,000 inbound messages in an hour of work. Note: this is not mean to offer encouragement for more to send 10,000 outbound messages or fall into Uncanny Valley of Email Automation (see https://www.skmurphy.com/blog/2015/03/25/the-uncanny-valley-... ) IoT / Mirror World / Sma…

> Better Email management tools, use existing transport but allow you to manage 1,000 to 10,000 inbound messages in an hour of work.

What single person receives that many emails in any given hour?

Re: Ask HN: What non-obvious tech/market may take off in the next few years?

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Post by andrewflnr »

browsergap wrote: post #37
searchableguy wrote: post #11

No code/low code. People here underestimate the work it requires to craft a production CRUD app and keep it working. The problem these tools solve are more related to infrastructure rather than one's ability to code. Learning to code might be the easiest part but deploying it, maintaining it, scaling it, securing it and integrating it with thousands of other services remains a huge task even for experienced folks. It…

I think one of the issues of nolocode is it doesn't actually help people think like programmers, but the tools are often created with the implicit need to do that, a need which the creators don't see because they are coders. People get spreadsheets and word documents. I don't really know why. But they get them. But while it might seem like the step from doc/xls to nolocode is small or even non-existent, I think it ac…

Part of it is probably that editing a spreadsheet feels much like a direct manipulation of the medium, where programming is much more abstract, made of descriptions.

Re: Ask HN: What non-obvious tech/market may take off in the next few years?

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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

kevindong wrote: post #121
skmurphy wrote: post #118

Privacy - Duck Duck Go may overtake Google at some point. Better Email management tools, use existing transport but allow you to manage 1,000 to 10,000 inbound messages in an hour of work. Note: this is not mean to offer encouragement for more to send 10,000 outbound messages or fall into Uncanny Valley of Email Automation (see https://www.skmurphy.com/blog/2015/03/25/the-uncanny-valley-... ) IoT / Mirror World / Sma…

> Better Email management tools, use existing transport but allow you to manage 1,000 to 10,000 inbound messages in an hour of work. What single person receives that many emails in any given hour?

Exactly. the problem with email tools is that it's built by people who think everyone receives thousands of emails. 99.999% of the world only receives less than 10 emails per day. They have no such problem as "information overload" when it comes to email.

Re: Ask HN: What non-obvious tech/market may take off in the next few years?

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Post by chacha2 »

skmurphy wrote: post #118

Privacy - Duck Duck Go may overtake Google at some point. Better Email management tools, use existing transport but allow you to manage 1,000 to 10,000 inbound messages in an hour of work. Note: this is not mean to offer encouragement for more to send 10,000 outbound messages or fall into Uncanny Valley of Email Automation (see https://www.skmurphy.com/blog/2015/03/25/the-uncanny-valley-... ) IoT / Mirror World / Sma…

> Duck Duck Go may overtake Google at some point.

You're insane.

Re: Ask HN: What non-obvious tech/market may take off in the next few years?

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Post by skmurphy »

kevindong wrote: post #121
skmurphy wrote: post #118

Privacy - Duck Duck Go may overtake Google at some point. Better Email management tools, use existing transport but allow you to manage 1,000 to 10,000 inbound messages in an hour of work. Note: this is not mean to offer encouragement for more to send 10,000 outbound messages or fall into Uncanny Valley of Email Automation (see https://www.skmurphy.com/blog/2015/03/25/the-uncanny-valley-... ) IoT / Mirror World / Sma…

> Better Email management tools, use existing transport but allow you to manage 1,000 to 10,000 inbound messages in an hour of work. What single person receives that many emails in any given hour?

It's not a question of receiving that many emails an hour, but only having to spend an hour to process 1,000 emails that you may receive in a day. With spam filters many have already passed a threshold of processing that many emails a day, the challenge is managing and responding to the "non-spam" portion.

Re: Ask HN: What non-obvious tech/market may take off in the next few years?

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Post by skmurphy »

chacha2 wrote: post #124
skmurphy wrote: post #118

Privacy - Duck Duck Go may overtake Google at some point. Better Email management tools, use existing transport but allow you to manage 1,000 to 10,000 inbound messages in an hour of work. Note: this is not mean to offer encouragement for more to send 10,000 outbound messages or fall into Uncanny Valley of Email Automation (see https://www.skmurphy.com/blog/2015/03/25/the-uncanny-valley-... ) IoT / Mirror World / Sma…

> Duck Duck Go may overtake Google at some point. You're insane.

It can happen one of two ways, Google may shrink. Consider AOL, Kodak, Sears as examples of other dominant players who did not react to changes in the zeitgeist.

See also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24245817 for an example of another potential trend.

Re: Ask HN: What non-obvious tech/market may take off in the next few years?

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Post by skmurphy »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #123
kevindong wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Better Email management tools, use existing transport but allow you to manage 1,000 to 10,000 inbound messages in an hour of work. What single person receives that many emails in any given hour?

Exactly. the problem with email tools is that it's built by people who think everyone receives thousands of emails. 99.999% of the world only receives less than 10 emails per day. They have no such problem as "information overload" when it comes to email.

The people and businesses who have the problem are willing to pay a lot to solve it. It's a high value problem to solve.

If your competitor(s) could process the equivalent of 10,000 inbound messages a day would they be able to maintain a higher level of situational awareness on early trends and harbingers? Could they uncover and address opportunities before you became aware of them?

Re: Ask HN: What non-obvious tech/market may take off in the next few years?

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Post by [deleted] »

dTal wrote: post #35
catmanjan wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No code = someone else's code, it's been around forever, used to be called cots

And "cloud" means someone else's computer, been around forever, used to be called mainframes. Didn't stop it from being a marketing explosion.

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Re: Ask HN: What non-obvious tech/market may take off in the next few years?

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Post by bovermyer »

brianhorakh wrote: post #29
bovermyer wrote: post #25

Open agriculture.

Every farmer i talk to about this doesn't store their data in compatible formats (yet) There are no standards.

That's not what I mean.

Commercial agriculture is heavily dependent on, and influenced by, companies that zealously guard what they see as their intellectual property.

When I say "open agriculture," I'm referring to protecting free experimentation and open seed culture.

Re: Ask HN: What non-obvious tech/market may take off in the next few years?

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Post by jppope »

bE9a3S5So8igd3 wrote: post #73
jppope wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every VC in the world right now is betting on this becoming a thing... problem is that No Code/ Low Code as a product doesn't actually solve the problem that they are trying to solve. The overarching concept of No Code/ Low Code is that "code" is the hard part of building software, ergo if we can make it so "normal" people don't have to code the problem is solved. Of course we all know that code isn't the hard part o…

I agree with this. I do wonder if low/no-code products will ever become good enough that you'd feel comfortable actually using one. I believe a part of this is having infrastructure/system that can describe itself in sufficient detail. Then the ability to modify itself with sufficient variety. Fundamentally I've seen ORMs/APIs/integrations that are more or less a crap shoot as to whether or not they're going to work,…

they totally will... but it's probably going to show up the way you would expect it to... some open source project will get really good at helping you configure 95% of your app with a CLI or something... then you'll mod some methods etc. Eventually that will transform into something that can predict what you'll need.

IMO stuff like serverless, OpenAPI, some of the boilerplates out there, etc are already heading in that direction. It used to take me a week to build a standard CRUD API with a handful of models, now I can do it circa 15-30min.

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