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Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by scarface74 »

LamaOfRuin wrote: post #320
scarface74 wrote: post #312

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What ridiculous premise? Can I go into any retail store and mark my product with the wholesale price and advertise the “tax” the retailer charged for letting me sell it in the store? Words Mean Things. A “tax” is a government imposed fee. A wholesale price is the price that a manufacturer sells a product to a retailer. Every retailer has a markup from the price that they get a product from a consumer. Do you think re…

I'm just going to go ahead and assume your posts on this are intentionally obtuse. If not, try considering how the situations might be differentiated and why that might make your chosen analogues of wholesale vs retail might be flawed. Have fun with all your posts on this story.

Let’s keep it simple. Does any store allow goods to be sold without a markup for them to make a profit? When I walk into Walmart, how many of the items have a price labeled from the factory? Has any retailer of digital goods ever sold at cost? Does Epic charge a markup for their digital goods or do they sell at cost? Can I buy virtual goods for use in Fortnite and avoid the “Epic tax”?

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by saagarjha »

detaro wrote: post #298
saagarjha wrote: post #70

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You may opt out of the usual App Store restrictions for your application.

Oh, did they add that? Interesting, do you happen to have a link with more details handy? I remember some GPL projects having license exceptions to allow app store usage.

Very top of https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/dev/std...

> Your license to each App is subject to your prior acceptance of either this Licensed Application End User License Agreement (“Standard EULA”), or a custom end user license agreement between you and the Application Provider (“Custom EULA”), if one is provided.

Most of the other things mentioned are “you can’t do this, unless custom EULA say you can”. And the custom EULA can be fairly broad, the only real restrictions on it that I saw was that you can’t pretend like you’re Apple in it.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by LamaOfRuin »

scarface74 wrote: post #321
LamaOfRuin wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm just going to go ahead and assume your posts on this are intentionally obtuse. If not, try considering how the situations might be differentiated and why that might make your chosen analogues of wholesale vs retail might be flawed. Have fun with all your posts on this story.

Let’s keep it simple. Does any store allow goods to be sold without a markup for them to make a profit? When I walk into Walmart, how many of the items have a price labeled from the factory? Has any retailer of digital goods ever sold at cost? Does Epic charge a markup for their digital goods or do they sell at cost? Can I buy virtual goods for use in Fortnite and avoid the “Epic tax”?

No one said there is no markup. MSRP is explicitly not "at cost" or even wholesale. That is the actual point. MSRP is constant at all retailers though.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by scarface74 »

LamaOfRuin wrote: post #323
scarface74 wrote: post #321

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let’s keep it simple. Does any store allow goods to be sold without a markup for them to make a profit? When I walk into Walmart, how many of the items have a price labeled from the factory? Has any retailer of digital goods ever sold at cost? Does Epic charge a markup for their digital goods or do they sell at cost? Can I buy virtual goods for use in Fortnite and avoid the “Epic tax”?

No one said there is no markup. MSRP is explicitly not "at cost" or even wholesale. That is the actual point. MSRP is constant at all retailers though.

You really think that all retailers sell the same goods at the same price? Have you ever looked at the price of snacks at a movie theatre and compared the price anywhere else? Heck even at the grocery store a 20 ounce soda sold on the aisle is cheaper than the same soda sold at the checkout line refrigerated.

Are cars all sold at the same price everywhere? TVs? Computers?

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by gls2ro »

graeme wrote: post #113
rewq4321 wrote: post #61

From the replies (@mysl_co): > Hey Matt, When I open the Help Center from the app, I can get guidance about upgrading to one of your paid plans. If I tap on “Plans” as seen the screenshot, the app opens Safari and shows the plans. This is a violation according to App Store Review Guidelines. > Here is the relevant term that your app violated: 3.1.3(a) Apps may allow a user to access previously purchased content or co…

Ah this is it right here. I had been very confused as to why Apple made this move. This is at least consistent with their past actions. But yeah the lack of ability to link to web based payment for subscription plans or even mention it will probably be something that has to go from the app store’s terms. It’s bad for both users and developers. The situation is confusing for users. Not all apps have margins that can s…

Seems to me that Apple has 15% for subscriptions for apps free with IAP after first year:

> After the first year, the developer earns 85% for all successive years that the user remains a subscriber, and Apple collects a 15% commission.

Source: https://www.apple.com/ios/app-store/principles-practices/

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by literallycancer »

ffpip wrote: post #316
literallycancer wrote: post #234

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Use Aurora store. Use an adblock.

I use both. Adblock doesnt stop play store ads. HTTPS. Play store is needed for buying apps. Can't do that from aurora store without a risk of your Googz Account getting banned.

What kind of play store ads? I have AdAway and don't get any ads. It needs root though.

You could buy apps from a desktop browser and just configure the account details in Aurora for the paid apps? I haven't heard of anyone getting banned.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by rewq4321 »

gls2ro wrote: post #325
graeme wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah this is it right here. I had been very confused as to why Apple made this move. This is at least consistent with their past actions. But yeah the lack of ability to link to web based payment for subscription plans or even mention it will probably be something that has to go from the app store’s terms. It’s bad for both users and developers. The situation is confusing for users. Not all apps have margins that can s…

Seems to me that Apple has 15% for subscriptions for apps free with IAP after first year: > After the first year, the developer earns 85% for all successive years that the user remains a subscriber, and Apple collects a 15% commission. Source: https://www.apple.com/ios/app-store/principles-practices/

I wonder how long people stay subscribed to apps on average? As an example, I'd guess that most people don't stay subscribed to games for much longer than a year, on average. So I'd bet that their effective tax is closer to 30% than 15%.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by rewq4321 »

danShumway wrote: post #149

I've commented this elsewhere, but Apple encouraging users to only upgrade and purchase subscriptions through Apple's payment systems and hiding in-app alternatives and links to other options isn't just about the 30% fee. It also increases consumer lock-in to the Apple ecosystem. If the only thing you're using your phone for is calling, browsing, and buying apps, it's not that hard to switch to Android. You lose all…

Very well said.

> If Apple could create a world where you lost your phone number when you switched phones, they'd do it in a heartbeat.

Face time is a start? They've dragged their feet on WebRTC implementation and spec compliance for a long time.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by wlesieutre »

adav wrote: post #278
wlesieutre wrote: post #125

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Federico Viticci at MacStories is the author to search for on all things Shortcuts. I found that one here: https://www.macstories.net/ios/shortcuts-corner-apple-frames... He also has a list of links for the Settings app here: https://www.macstories.net/ios/a-comprehensive-guide-to-all-...

Thank you :)

I was underselling it a bit with “not obvious.” It’s more like “requires secret magics.“
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