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Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

vcavallo wrote: post #76
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use motionEye to monitor RTSP feed from two IP cameras (Generic) on RPi 3(SSD, btrfs, zswap, ArchLinux ARM - headless, passive cooling - heat sink case) the feed averages around 30fps(720p) with motion detection. I had a third logitech c720 via USB but removed it to get better frame rates for the former and make room(CPU) for a SDR setup(To receive 433Mhz from other sensors). Note: Generic IP cameras dial home for…

Thanks for the details! yea i picked up a generic chinese camera and did not at all like the required login to their servers... I’m not confident enough in my sysadmin skills to make sure this thing isn’t spying on me. I’m considering spending 4x-5x the amount on better hardware..

Just to understand the need gap, how much would you be willing to pay for a RPi nano/ESP camera setup with Motion Eye which allows you to store the data in your own NAS?

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

test1235 wrote: post #53
rumanator wrote: post #23

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A Lenovo M92p is about 6x the price of a RPi, and the noise/form factor can't possibly be compared. If you really want to compare a 200$ desktop with a 40$ SoC then you should aim for stuff such as those mini PC's/thin clients from Asus, which nowadays even ship with Ryzen processors.

>noise There's no way you can do much on the rPi4 without active cooling - mine gets uncomfortable hot doing some basic web scraping, never mind server duties.

There's an oversized passive heatsink available for the RPi4 now: https://www.coolipi.com/ Ought to be adequate at full load without a fan for anything short of a tropical climate. Not inexpensive, though.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Post by vcavallo »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #81
vcavallo wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the details! yea i picked up a generic chinese camera and did not at all like the required login to their servers... I’m not confident enough in my sysadmin skills to make sure this thing isn’t spying on me. I’m considering spending 4x-5x the amount on better hardware..

Just to understand the need gap, how much would you be willing to pay for a RPi nano/ESP camera setup with Motion Eye which allows you to store the data in your own NAS?

$300-$500 ballpark. especially if the pi is usable for other (relatively light) home server uses and the camera network is extensible

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Post by wishinghand »

colordrops wrote: post #9

A lot of skepticism in this thread. I've got a pi4 4GB running Ubuntu server, acting as a SMB file server, Plex media server, Mopidy music server, Spotify Connect endpoint, video recorder for my two outdoor IP cameras, and a Minecraft server for my kids, all running simultaneously. And it's not breaking a sweat, not even getting close to full memory or CPU utilization. I do use a USB nvme SSD enclosure for storage to…

What USB nvme enclosure are you using? And what SSD?

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Post by rhn_mk1 »

ratiolat wrote: post #54

I am waiting for AMD based "NUC", because I don't want to give money to Intel. The reason I want a AMD based computer is to run vanilla Debian on it. Vanilla debian does not run on Raspberry unfortunately. Currently I'm running Odroid XU4, but I need more ram and horsepower.

There's ThinkCentre m715q and HP ProDesk 405 g4 for that.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Post by novok »

colordrops wrote: post #9

A lot of skepticism in this thread. I've got a pi4 4GB running Ubuntu server, acting as a SMB file server, Plex media server, Mopidy music server, Spotify Connect endpoint, video recorder for my two outdoor IP cameras, and a Minecraft server for my kids, all running simultaneously. And it's not breaking a sweat, not even getting close to full memory or CPU utilization. I do use a USB nvme SSD enclosure for storage to…

I run home assistant and the unifi controller on a 3b Pi and noticed that I have restart it once a few weeks or it starts becoming slower to respond. I don't know if it's a memory thing that eventually becomes too much or something else.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Post by novok »

justin66 wrote: post #77
Legogris wrote: post #2

Unless you specifically need the 8GB RAM (where Rpi 4 is the only contender in this range as of right now AFAIK), IMO for server use-cases it'd be better to consider either Odroid C4 or Rock Pi 4 - both offer better storage interfaces than USB/microSD natively. Also easier to run vanilla Debian/Ubuntu (or Armbian, which is very close to vanilla but can be easily built custom for either board preconfigured with necess…

> better storage interfaces than USB/microSD natively. For this micro-server form factor, with a tiny little board in a tiny little case, what is a better storage form factor than a little portable SSD connected via USB 3? (I wouldn't be wild about using a microSD card for a server that relied much on storage)

A direct m.2 or sata slot so you don't have to deal with USB annoyances.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Post by city41 »

colordrops wrote: post #9

A lot of skepticism in this thread. I've got a pi4 4GB running Ubuntu server, acting as a SMB file server, Plex media server, Mopidy music server, Spotify Connect endpoint, video recorder for my two outdoor IP cameras, and a Minecraft server for my kids, all running simultaneously. And it's not breaking a sweat, not even getting close to full memory or CPU utilization. I do use a USB nvme SSD enclosure for storage to…

I find the pi4 is pretty close to being fast enough to be my daily driver. Not quite, but it's pretty close. I suspect the pi5 will meet my needs. Being able to just mount a ~$100 computer on the back of my monitor and do my work on it will be pretty mind blowing.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Post by justin66 »

novok wrote: post #88
justin66 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> better storage interfaces than USB/microSD natively. For this micro-server form factor, with a tiny little board in a tiny little case, what is a better storage form factor than a little portable SSD connected via USB 3? (I wouldn't be wild about using a microSD card for a server that relied much on storage)

A direct m.2 or sata slot so you don't have to deal with USB annoyances.

Since the Pi people finally got USB boot finished for the Pi 4, I'm not sure what USB annoyances are left to worry about? That's really why I asked the question. A USB 3 SSD seems about as trouble-free as a storage device can possibly be.
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