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Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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I am waiting for AMD based "NUC", because I don't want to give money to Intel. The reason I want a AMD based computer is to run vanilla Debian on it. Vanilla debian does not run on Raspberry unfortunately. Currently I'm running Odroid XU4, but I need more ram and horsepower.

Have you seen the Asus PN50? https://www.asus.com/Mini-PCs/Mini-PC-PN50/

It has Intel Wi-Fi...

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Unless you specifically need the 8GB RAM (where Rpi 4 is the only contender in this range as of right now AFAIK), IMO for server use-cases it'd be better to consider either Odroid C4 or Rock Pi 4 - both offer better storage interfaces than USB/microSD natively. Also easier to run vanilla Debian/Ubuntu (or Armbian, which is very close to vanilla but can be easily built custom for either board preconfigured with necess…

I don't know if things have improved but traditionally every other alternative SBC had better hardware but was stuck in one image provided by the vendor that was never updated and buggy. Has the situation improved, i.e. can you just run apt upgrade on an Odroid C4? Can you run Arch on it?

The Armbian project has been a pretty good platform for various boards. The support will be different from board to board, but personally had a great experience with it on an Orange Pi Zero.

https://www.armbian.com/

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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I am waiting for AMD based "NUC", because I don't want to give money to Intel. The reason I want a AMD based computer is to run vanilla Debian on it. Vanilla debian does not run on Raspberry unfortunately. Currently I'm running Odroid XU4, but I need more ram and horsepower.

How about https://shop.udoo.org/products/bolt.html?

You can also look at https://www.amd.com/en/products/embedded-minipc-solutions.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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I am waiting for AMD based "NUC", because I don't want to give money to Intel. The reason I want a AMD based computer is to run vanilla Debian on it. Vanilla debian does not run on Raspberry unfortunately. Currently I'm running Odroid XU4, but I need more ram and horsepower.

Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, because larger and more expensive than most systems in this context, but it comes with anything one needs, with the exception of CPU, RAM and storage.

https://www.asrock.com/nettop/AMD/DeskMini%20A300%20Series/

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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I have a 4k monitor and it works but it's too slow with Minecraft so we run it at 1080p

What version of Minecraft do you run on the pi? Bedrock? Java? Or the RPi edition?

You can now run the current Java version, but it's still too slow to be enjoyable... I think if Mojang wanted they could fix the performance as it itermittently is completely playable for long periods:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=2791...

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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I have many pis, but when it comes to making a mini server, wouldn't it be worth it to spring for a low end intel machine, or used mini-pcs? They already come with things like power supplies, RTC+battery, on-off switches, sata and/or m.2, expandable memory, etc.

Can it idle at 1W? I'll be running the server all the time, so every watt counts.

Idle for the 4 is around 3W, peak 7W.

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A Lenovo M92p is about 6x the price of a RPi, and the noise/form factor can't possibly be compared. If you really want to compare a 200$ desktop with a 40$ SoC then you should aim for stuff such as those mini PC's/thin clients from Asus, which nowadays even ship with Ryzen processors.

>noise There's no way you can do much on the rPi4 without active cooling - mine gets uncomfortable hot doing some basic web scraping, never mind server duties.

You just need the right heatsink: http://move.rupy.se/file/pi_4.jpg

This one is sold out and out of production now though and I had to trim it because it was made for the 3+

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Used Lenovo Tiny M92p/M93p units make a nicer solution for this, to me. The enclosure is already there, and no janky USB storage to deal with.

How do these stack up to Intel NUCs?

At 2 Gflops/watt these are better for server duty, specially with battery backup, if you care about that sort of stuff.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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A lot of skepticism in this thread. I've got a pi4 4GB running Ubuntu server, acting as a SMB file server, Plex media server, Mopidy music server, Spotify Connect endpoint, video recorder for my two outdoor IP cameras, and a Minecraft server for my kids, all running simultaneously. And it's not breaking a sweat, not even getting close to full memory or CPU utilization. I do use a USB nvme SSD enclosure for storage to…

I've had encrypted USB storage on a Pi 2, as a Git server for over 5 years, used by several users for large projects, when the commit size was large there were some CPU bottleneck(it's Pi2 after all), but never had any reliability issues although I had daily backup to another USB storage on the same device and a remote-backup pushed from the device. I might have rebooted it 3-4 times over past 5 years just for cleani…

What Toshiba SD cards do you use? I bought 256GB ones and they all had too much latency to be usable.
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