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Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by hombre_fatal »

programmarchy wrote: post #156
saagarjha wrote: post #66

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I'm sure they're really hurting for that cent, you think?

Not at all. Just explaining why there’d be a price difference. Apple has a good reason for not allowing weird prices like $3.61 but also excludes prices like $5. They also used to require that subscriptions outside the App Store match In-App Purchase prices, but dropped that requirement. Pricing $5.99 in-app and $5 outside is a good strategy. It’s a nudge to get users to buy outside the app and save 15%, but if not t…

Your second paragraph explains why you think there would be a price difference. That you can only choose 4.99 or 5.99 seems unrelated to your actual theory, and it doesn't make sense on its own.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by tpxl »

monkeyshelli wrote: post #197
ViViDboarder wrote: post #167

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Just so you know, your Pixel also has a bunch of binary blobs that track you. Google Play services track nearly everything on the device with system level access. I switched to an iPhone a few years ago to get further from Google, but the crap with the App Store is getting so out of hand now. My next device will probably be a Pine Phone.

> My next device will probably be a Pine Phone. As a long time iPhone user I'm on the same boat. I do hope there will be a somewhat beta level Pine Phone soon. I'm already thinking should I get my old Nokia n900 from the storage box and start using that. Not comfortable with Androids and the latest Apple actions are making me feel a bit unsure on the direction they are taking.

There is a beta level pine phone :) The calls/texts, bluetooth and wifi all work.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by saurik »

commoner wrote: post #171
saurik wrote: post #112

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> No more external cameras etc.. Woah; this would affect me, but I can't find any reference for it... can I convince you to expand a bit?

The camera picker is going to be removed from Android 11. When an intent for image/video capture is launched from another app, the pre-installed camera app will be opened regardless of what the default camera app is. The default camera app is still used for gestures (e.g. double-clicking the power button), and apps with built-in camera functionality are unaffected. https://www.androidpolice.com/2020/08/20/android-11-…

Ok, thanks; I thought you were saying that external-to-the-device USB cameras would no longer be supported (which I am now thinking is not the case).

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by gsich »

georgespencer wrote: post #180
gsich wrote: post #135

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regarding 1: >You must not directly or indirectly target iOS users to use a purchasing method other than in-app purchase, and your general communications about other purchasing methods must not discourage use of in-app purchase. Which essentially can counteract the uniformity, depending on how insane the reviewer is. Paying more for IAP is obviously discouraging.

This has nothing to do with a company's ability to price differently on other platforms or their website, and there is significant evidence that shows apps allowed onto the app store with more expensive purchase price, subscription price, and IAP price.

But it is. Take Spotify. You can't pay for that in the app. If they could charge more, they would. But they aren't allowed, so they discontinued IAP alltogether.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by scarface74 »

SyneRyder wrote: post #279
scarface74 wrote: post #276

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So we are talking about something that has happened since 2011 . Let’s do a thought experiment. Try selling something in a Best Buy and asking them will they allow you to publicize in Best Buy that you can get a lower price if you buy from their website. How do you think that will work out?

Perfectly fine. This is why the MSRP - Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price - or RRP, Recommended Retail Price, is common practice. The manufacturer publishes the suggested price on the box itself, so if a store tries overpricing by 30%, you know just by looking at the box that you're paying more than you should and should shop elsewhere. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/manufacturers-suggested...

Well, the App Store shows manufacturer suggested price. A manufacturer still doesn’t get to advertise the wholesale price nor do they get to advertise that you can get it cheaper somewhere else.

I fail to see how the MSRP is relevant.

The question was quite simple. Can I sell an item in Best Buy or GameStop and advertise in their store that a customer can get it cheaper online?

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by Hamuko »

rubber_duck wrote: post #269
matchbok wrote: post #189

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Credit card companies.... already have those rules. No store can just offer a cheaper cash price. It’s in the agreements.

Yes they can, it was ruled anti competitive a long time ago - this is why you can often find cash only discount. The only place CC won is that you usually can't surcharge the price, instead you must call it a discount for cash, etc.

Is cash even cheaper? I don't think a single store here would prefer you to pay in cash and that sentiment has only grown stronger this year.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by scarface74 »

dylan-m wrote: post #99
wwright wrote: post #98

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Even if it was, that’s definitely not significant. Each engineer is probably paid more per day than that. (I’m not a fan of the flat 30% charge, but developer program fees are not a challenge for any group with a revenue stream if any kind.)

Yeah, I meant per developer. Wires crossed. But it certainly doesn't matter what each engineer is paid. Apple has 20 million registered developers. [Edit: And let's say a third of them pay that fee, which is admittedly probably a stretch. The finer details are not my point here other than to say here's a bunch of money that comes in no matter what] I don't care what those developers are making: that's serious income…

A third of $2 billion is serious revenue for a company that made $260 billion and that is worth over two trillion. The $99 is not per developer, it’s per business.

It’s not about Apple being anyone’s friends. It’s about being logical.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by scarface74 »

bigiain wrote: post #150
wwright wrote: post #98

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Even if it was, that’s definitely not significant. Each engineer is probably paid more per day than that. (I’m not a fan of the flat 30% charge, but developer program fees are not a challenge for any group with a revenue stream if any kind.)

> Each engineer is probably paid more per day than that. Except for parts of the world where that's closer to a week or months worth of pay...

And those parts of the world aren’t buying $400 iPhones (which are more expensive in developing countries) plus Macs. They are developing for Android.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by scarface74 »

GeneralTspoon wrote: post #47
giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

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This is really sad. On the one hand, sure Apple should be able to make a cut on their app store, on the other hand, they shouldn't be allowed to force apps to do this sort of thing. This will only drive domain prices higher on iOS in order to compensate (in the case of Automattic). If I were in a position where Apple is forcing me to pay a 30% tax, I would literally add "30% Apple Tax" to the check out screen on top…

> If I were in a position where Apple is forcing me to pay a 30% tax, I would literally add "30% Apple Tax" to the check out screen on top of the regular fees to make consumers aware. Course I'm sure Apple wouldn't like this at all either. They straight up won't allow you to do this.... I've tried before, and got a call from the Apple Reviewer to say that they won't allow anything like this to be published.

Do you also feel that every product sold in a physical store should display the margin between wholesale and retail?
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