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Wait, how is felons voting a bad thing?
Probably from the US, they didn't sign the human rights treaty and are a bit.. underdeveloped at that front.
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> . We should look at why people are turning to Telegram when protesting. Every single person I know who uses Telegram does it for either porn or piracy or both. So using what you already have for protests if they occur makes sense. Trying to get ppl to install a different app is much more complicated at this point. Sometimes may even be prevented by the regime.
That must be a generational/geolocational thing. I've never even heard either of them was available in the app.
What it also is here is male. I haven't met a single woman in Germany who'd have the app.
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When I installed Telegram for the first time, people in my address book saw me and wrote me. How did that happen?
Because Telegram uses phone's contact list for contact discovery. There's nothing unusual about this. This how Signal, Riot, Threema, Wire and dozens and dozens of messengers work.
Why is that being brought up as difference?
It's not surprising that every time Telegram pops up here, many comments miss the fact that Telegram has a great UX, a great feature set and also provides the kind of privacy protestors value, i.e., not having their phone numbers flashed to every random stranger in groups or to random channel owners whose channels you've subscribed to. With Telegram you cannot even do a phone number enumeration attack (this can be ch…
And a great bot API. It's literally one of the easiest to use APIs I've ever seen. If you need a home-made solution to control something from your phone or even get push notifications, a Telegram bot is the way to go.
They also have an API which lets you make clients. That, on the other hand, is one of the worst APIs I've ever seen, but it exists, and you can't say that about most centralized and popular messaging solutions.
Because of that API, there's a great client for Windows 10 called Unigram, which is much more pleasant to use than all those Electron apps.
I suspect Unigram is the single reason why Telegram is so popular in the blind community, even though iOS accessibility is horrible, much worse than in most apps of this kind.
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I love telegram. Great UI, feels natural to use it. And SO MANY features, it's hard to keep up. Unlimited storage helps too.
When you realize end-to-end encryption is a necessary property of all features, you realize Telegram lacks even basic things like desktop clients, syncable chats, and group chats. Not so feature rich anymore ;)
It has everything it should have and is not Electron. The best app of this kind there is at the moment.
I'm not affiliated with Unigram in any way, just a happy user.
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Open source is not the be-all end-all of security either. Closed source apps can still be audited (with increased difficulty), and open source apps might still be impractical to audit even though they are open source.
Nobody's claimed that. Open source is not panacea for verifiable security, it is however a requirement of it.
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I only see praise for Telegram, which is confusing, because it is unsafe snake oil. Don’t use Telegram.
It’s no more unsafe as using whatsapp or some other similar service. To be fair, if most of my relatives would not use whatsapp, i would’ve turned 100% telegram already.
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It’s no more unsafe as using whatsapp or some other similar service. To be fair, if most of my relatives would not use whatsapp, i would’ve turned 100% telegram already.
Telegram does not encrypt per default as opposed to WhatsApp
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> Telegram cooperates with data requests from law enforcements. It is not that black and white: AFAIK and IIRC it is more like this: - yes: Telegram gives data about members of public groups/channels - no: Telegram does not give out information from closed groups / personal chats, and they go to great lengths to prevent that information from becoming available. We might be sceptical all we want about the custom crypt…
"they go to great lengths to prevent that information from becoming available." Where's the documentation for this? Without documentation your assumption that there's any security is just blind faith.
Here's the case for Russia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_Telegram_in_Russia (eventually the govt has blocked over 20 million (!) IP addresses, including Google's and Cloudflare's, and that disrupted 30% of the Internet in the country, but the app just kept working fine)