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Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by kuschku »

wmf wrote: post #130
9HZZRfNlpR wrote: post #95

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IPhone is expensive, who can spend 1000 euro on a damn phone? Not many even here in Europe. Americans have tons of disposable money, see wealthier and in general like ti consume.

Postpaid service is around $1000 per year, so why not get a $1000 phone to go with it?

I’m using a 5GB/month, unlimited calls (EU), unlimited SMS (EU) plan for 8€/month, so 96€/year.

Even buying e.g. a Pixel several years after release at 270€, the phone is definitely the most expensive part.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by solarengineer »

dkersten wrote: post #233
ac29 wrote: post #198

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There are substantial portions of the world where median income per household is 10000USD or less: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Median_income

Do people who live there own an iphone or a macbook? If not, how are they developing for those devices?

They often take a bank loan to buy a Mac + iPhone for the whole office, and devs take turns working on it and programming on it. The Apple Account would be for one person ("the company").

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by fpordeig »

mmastrac wrote: post #2

Tweet thread - it looks like Apple is requiring in-app purchases to sign-up for wordpress.com accounts, despite it being an open-source app for any WordPress site: > Heads up on why @WordPressiOS updates have been absent... we were locked by App Store. To be able to ship updates and bug fixes again we had to commit to support in-app purchases for .com plans. I know why this is problematic, open to suggestions. Allow…

Idea: run ads telling ios users that buying in-app is much more expensive than buying in the website. Tell users that apple is scamming them with in app purchases. If this becomes vox populi, it will be a pr nightmare for apple. We would need some kind of consumer's association or foundation to run it in order to protect funders identities.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by scarface74 »

frabcus wrote: post #188
scarface74 wrote: post #91

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So even though I pointed to two well known cases where that isn’t true, you’re getting your information from where exactly? Yes and the 30% cut is moving money from poor Epic’s pockets so they can’t sell virtual coins for dance moves. Most money on the App Store comes from whales playing pay to win games like Candy Crush. You have no proof - not in the rules that are published or anywhere else. You can simply go to t…

You're right, I don't have tangible evidence of specifically disallowing charging different amounts on different platforms. It's possible I've conflated that with not being able to call out the charge difference (e.g. by using the words "Apple Tax" on the payment page), and not being able to link to other payment methods (e.g. on web), which massively devalue any benefit from charging more. I agree that Epic are in i…

Is there a retailer that allows a company to label the wholesale vs retail price? Is there a retailer that allows a company to sell a product in their store and tell them that they can get it cheaper somewhere else?

Can a game retailer sell something at GameStop while advertising they can get at a lower price online in GameStop?

Where exactly are these indy developers? The time of most indy developers making it big on mobile left the train a decade ago. They have been drowned out by the makers of Candy Crush and Clash of Clans.

We already saw the race to the bottom after mobile became popular. Do you really think the bottom just wouldn’t get lower?

I remember back in 2008, when the mobile gold rush started and indy developers of popular apps were publishing how much they were making. I was making more working in corporate America writing field service apps for ruggedized Windows CE devices

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by SyneRyder »

scarface74 wrote: post #91
frabcus wrote: post #34

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Apple enforce the rules capriciously, and change them on a whim. Almost certainly, they allow Spotify and the NYT because iOS customers and potential customers would object too much if they were removed from the store. A well as the 30% tax making all apps worse in quality by removing money from development, the unpredictableness and unfairness destroys many businesses before they even start.

So even though I pointed to two well known cases where that isn’t true, you’re getting your information from where exactly? Yes and the 30% cut is moving money from poor Epic’s pockets so they can’t sell virtual coins for dance moves. Most money on the App Store comes from whales playing pay to win games like Candy Crush. You have no proof - not in the rules that are published or anywhere else. You can simply go to t…

The rule was 11.13 of the Apple App Store Review Guidelines:

11.13 Apps can read or play approved content (magazines, newspapers, books, audio, music, video) that is sold outside of the app, for which Apple will not receive any portion of the revenues, provided that the same content is also offered in the app using IAP at the same price or less than it is offered outside the app. This applies to both purchased content and subscriptions.

The same-price rule was revoked in 2011 after legal challenges from newspapers & magazines. It was replaced with a rule that doesn't allow linking to any websites within the app.

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/06/09/apple-reverses-course-o...

As of 2020, rule 3.1.3(a) also does not allow you to recommend in any public business communications using payment methods other than Apple:

"you agree not to directly or indirectly target iOS users to use a purchasing method other than in-app purchase, and your general communications about other purchasing methods are not designed to discourage use of in-app purchase."

https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by scarface74 »

SyneRyder wrote: post #275
scarface74 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So even though I pointed to two well known cases where that isn’t true, you’re getting your information from where exactly? Yes and the 30% cut is moving money from poor Epic’s pockets so they can’t sell virtual coins for dance moves. Most money on the App Store comes from whales playing pay to win games like Candy Crush. You have no proof - not in the rules that are published or anywhere else. You can simply go to t…

The rule was 11.13 of the Apple App Store Review Guidelines: 11.13 Apps can read or play approved content (magazines, newspapers, books, audio, music, video) that is sold outside of the app, for which Apple will not receive any portion of the revenues, provided that the same content is also offered in the app using IAP at the same price or less than it is offered outside the app. This applies to both purchased conten…

So we are talking about something that has happened since 2011.

Let’s do a thought experiment. Try selling something in a Best Buy and asking them will they allow you to publicize in Best Buy that you can get a lower price if you buy from their website. How do you think that will work out?

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Post by hombre_fatal »

wolco wrote: post #131
LeonB wrote: post #114

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20 million * $99 certainly is real money. For a popular income generating app, the $99 will make an insignificant impact on the marginal cost. But the vast vast majority of apps are not in that category, and the $99 does have an impact.

It limits the types of apps found in iOS.

And it limits spam.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by adav »

wlesieutre wrote: post #125
adav wrote: post #110

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Where does one find more of these secret URLs?

Federico Viticci at MacStories is the author to search for on all things Shortcuts. I found that one here: https://www.macstories.net/ios/shortcuts-corner-apple-frames... He also has a list of links for the Settings app here: https://www.macstories.net/ios/a-comprehensive-guide-to-all-...

Thank you :)

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by SyneRyder »

scarface74 wrote: post #276
SyneRyder wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The rule was 11.13 of the Apple App Store Review Guidelines: 11.13 Apps can read or play approved content (magazines, newspapers, books, audio, music, video) that is sold outside of the app, for which Apple will not receive any portion of the revenues, provided that the same content is also offered in the app using IAP at the same price or less than it is offered outside the app. This applies to both purchased conten…

So we are talking about something that has happened since 2011 . Let’s do a thought experiment. Try selling something in a Best Buy and asking them will they allow you to publicize in Best Buy that you can get a lower price if you buy from their website. How do you think that will work out?

Perfectly fine. This is why the MSRP - Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price - or RRP, Recommended Retail Price, is common practice. The manufacturer publishes the suggested price on the box itself, so if a store tries overpricing by 30%, you know just by looking at the box that you're paying more than you should and should shop elsewhere.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/m/manufacturers-suggested...

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by stingraycharles »

Ok correct me if I’m wrong, but the rationale is pretty much that since there is a commercial version of Wordpress that this app interacts with, the user should be able to purchase this through Apple’s payment gateway?

If this is correct, wouldn’t the same logic apply to other tools, such as JIRA and Trello and whatnot? Or am I mistaken?

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