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Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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I don't understand why you would bother with this when you can pick up a second-hand Thinkpad for so cheap which brings a builtin UPS and far more performance, RAM, and IO options.

As someone who's grown tired of a flaky rpi connected to an external drive, is there a generation to shoot for in terms of low price to reasonable performance?

I use a powered USB hub and it got rid of my flakiness problems.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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post #3

I don't understand why you would bother with this when you can pick up a second-hand Thinkpad for so cheap which brings a builtin UPS and far more performance, RAM, and IO options.

As someone who's grown tired of a flaky rpi connected to an external drive, is there a generation to shoot for in terms of low price to reasonable performance?

Yeah I’m in the same boat right now. I want an always on machine to connect a disk to that doesn’t draw too much power. I looked at NUCs but they seem far too expensive for my usecase.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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post #3

I don't understand why you would bother with this when you can pick up a second-hand Thinkpad for so cheap which brings a builtin UPS and far more performance, RAM, and IO options.

I don't see where it makes any sense to compare an ancient used end-of-life x86 laptop with a brand new ARM SoC in any of the relevant categories, such as price, form factor, power consumption, availability, and even support.

Just for context, you can fit about 10 raspberry pi 4s in the same volume you fit your used laptop, and for the price of an old end-of-life Thinkpad you can buy 5 or 6 RPis. Hell, you can go to any online store and buy dozens of RPis in a couple of clocks and have them delivered to your doorstep in a few days.

Meanwhile, your cheap Thinkpad is already in the tail end of its bathtub curve.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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A lot of skepticism in this thread. I've got a pi4 4GB running Ubuntu server, acting as a SMB file server, Plex media server, Mopidy music server, Spotify Connect endpoint, video recorder for my two outdoor IP cameras, and a Minecraft server for my kids, all running simultaneously. And it's not breaking a sweat, not even getting close to full memory or CPU utilization. I do use a USB nvme SSD enclosure for storage to…

I've been using mine for Plex and Deluge the previous 6-months or so. In terms of performance it's been all but flawless.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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post #2

Unless you specifically need the 8GB RAM (where Rpi 4 is the only contender in this range as of right now AFAIK), IMO for server use-cases it'd be better to consider either Odroid C4 or Rock Pi 4 - both offer better storage interfaces than USB/microSD natively. Also easier to run vanilla Debian/Ubuntu (or Armbian, which is very close to vanilla but can be easily built custom for either board preconfigured with necess…

I have many pis, but when it comes to making a mini server, wouldn't it be worth it to spring for a low end intel machine, or used mini-pcs?

They already come with things like power supplies, RTC+battery, on-off switches, sata and/or m.2, expandable memory, etc.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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post #6

Don’t do it! For (your own) source code or valuables, you need ECC memory and a capacitor on the power supply for your storage device which, by the way, should not be prone to corruption when the device is vibrated a little too hard causing electrical shorts in the SD-card or USB connectors! Backups aren’t the answer either, in fact backups can trigger RAM errors (especially with encryption and compression enabled) t…

Is this missing an /s at the end? All of this is true, but come on, 99% of regular people don't need any of this stuff. And pretty much no one actually needs ECC memory outside of professional setting.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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post #14

Used Lenovo Tiny M92p/M93p units make a nicer solution for this, to me. The enclosure is already there, and no janky USB storage to deal with.

Thats not a bad option but it’s a huge dif in price, specs, size. It really depends on your needs and wants. The pi’s are very tempting because they could be incorporated in many small spaces. Somebody else mentions that an used laptop has better specs and while true it misses the point. Rpis are ubiquitous, small, interchangeable, etc And the price will most likely go down even further (in terms of specs and compared to other options). I persobally welcome them even if i dont own any yet

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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post #6

Don’t do it! For (your own) source code or valuables, you need ECC memory and a capacitor on the power supply for your storage device which, by the way, should not be prone to corruption when the device is vibrated a little too hard causing electrical shorts in the SD-card or USB connectors! Backups aren’t the answer either, in fact backups can trigger RAM errors (especially with encryption and compression enabled) t…

There are good reasons not to use a raspberry pi as a server. But lack of ecc ram is not one of them.

Re: Turning the Raspberry Pi 4 into a Mini Server

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A lot of skepticism in this thread. I've got a pi4 4GB running Ubuntu server, acting as a SMB file server, Plex media server, Mopidy music server, Spotify Connect endpoint, video recorder for my two outdoor IP cameras, and a Minecraft server for my kids, all running simultaneously. And it's not breaking a sweat, not even getting close to full memory or CPU utilization. I do use a USB nvme SSD enclosure for storage to…

I have a couple of RPis running Raspbian with a SMB server, and they keep on ticking without a hitch.

The only problem I ever experience was when I tried to run a RPi4 as a desktop with a 4k tv. Although everything worked out of the box, sometimes the system stopped responding.

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