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Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by robotnixon »

rewq4321 wrote: post #61

From the replies (@mysl_co): > Hey Matt, When I open the Help Center from the app, I can get guidance about upgrading to one of your paid plans. If I tap on “Plans” as seen the screenshot, the app opens Safari and shows the plans. This is a violation according to App Store Review Guidelines. > Here is the relevant term that your app violated: 3.1.3(a) Apps may allow a user to access previously purchased content or co…

My company had our apps flagged because our links to support documentation included our logo, which took you to our homepage, where you could presumably find contact information for our sales department and contact us to purchase. At the time we didn't even have the ability purchase online as our app was only a portal to the enterprise product we were selling which had custom pricing. We ended up removing the support link and just prompted them to email support.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by ffpip »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #20
giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is really sad. On the one hand, sure Apple should be able to make a cut on their app store, on the other hand, they shouldn't be allowed to force apps to do this sort of thing. This will only drive domain prices higher on iOS in order to compensate (in the case of Automattic). If I were in a position where Apple is forcing me to pay a 30% tax, I would literally add "30% Apple Tax" to the check out screen on top…

> If I were in a position where Apple is forcing me to pay a 30% tax, I would literally add "30% Apple Tax" to the check out screen on top of the regular fees to make consumers aware If you don't know that, it is not allowed to sell for more in iOS than in your site, and the app will get banned for attempting that, forget about displaying 30% apple tax to the users explicitly. Edit: Heard from somewhere, likely not f…

False. You are just not allowed to say it is cheaper on the website.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by shkkmo »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #28
turblety wrote: post #5

I know I really don't matter to Apple, but this walled garden and app store dictatorship is what finally made me move away from iOS to Android last year. I had used Android in the past, but it was with Samsung Galaxy's which where very bloated and awful when compared to Apple. But when a friend told me that Samsung just ruin Android [1] and I should try an actual Google phone, I bought a Pixel and it's honestly great…

Android is also kinda a walled garden. At least in this context play store terms is not more developer friendly than app store in ios. While installing APKs is more easier than codesigning custom apps for iphone, I think it could be used in rare cases.

> At least in this context play store terms is not more developer friendly than app store in ios.

I'm not aware of any instances where google forced a developer to monetize an app.

Indeed, unlike apple, google is fine with you using a 3rd party payment provider (i.e. not paying the 30% cut) if the product purchased can be used outside the app (which is clearly the case for a domain name.)

>> Payment is for digital content that may be consumed outside of the app itself (e.g. songs that can be played on other music players). [0]

[0] https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ...

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by ffpip »

dgellow wrote: post #27
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If I were in a position where Apple is forcing me to pay a 30% tax, I would literally add "30% Apple Tax" to the check out screen on top of the regular fees to make consumers aware If you don't know that, it is not allowed to sell for more in iOS than in your site, and the app will get banned for attempting that, forget about displaying 30% apple tax to the users explicitly. Edit: Heard from somewhere, likely not f…

Unless you’re YouTube

Every app can do this. They just can't say that it is cheaper on the website.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by briandear »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #20
giancarlostoro wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is really sad. On the one hand, sure Apple should be able to make a cut on their app store, on the other hand, they shouldn't be allowed to force apps to do this sort of thing. This will only drive domain prices higher on iOS in order to compensate (in the case of Automattic). If I were in a position where Apple is forcing me to pay a 30% tax, I would literally add "30% Apple Tax" to the check out screen on top…

> If I were in a position where Apple is forcing me to pay a 30% tax, I would literally add "30% Apple Tax" to the check out screen on top of the regular fees to make consumers aware If you don't know that, it is not allowed to sell for more in iOS than in your site, and the app will get banned for attempting that, forget about displaying 30% apple tax to the users explicitly. Edit: Heard from somewhere, likely not f…

I can support that. Along with listing a line item for every tax charged and what those taxes are used for. Perhaps a line item of credit card fees (for non App Store purchases.” Also a line item for salaries of your developers, a line item for the rent charged wherever you are working from. And perhaps a line item for exactly how much the servers and customer support costs.

What’s the markup of a product sold in a brick and mortar shop? It’s a whole lot more than 30%.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by ffpip »

sschueller wrote: post #35
turblety wrote: post #5

I know I really don't matter to Apple, but this walled garden and app store dictatorship is what finally made me move away from iOS to Android last year. I had used Android in the past, but it was with Samsung Galaxy's which where very bloated and awful when compared to Apple. But when a friend told me that Samsung just ruin Android [1] and I should try an actual Google phone, I bought a Pixel and it's honestly great…

The play store is getting worse and worse. It will eventually end up being just a bad. Meanwhile every iteration of Android is getting more locked down because of "security". No more external cameras etc.. The future look bleak until we get a true open source alternative running on open hardware.

God. I just stopped opening the play store. Everything is ads and autoplaying videos.

I added the update shortcut to homescreen to go straight to updates

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by aikah »

Razengan wrote: post #65

What should be the price of accessing a billion users? Does any platform allow anyone to charge its users without going through the platform? Nevermind charging, does -any- platform allow anyone to interact with its users at all without adhering to the platform's terms and conditions? Can we post anything we want on HN? How about spamming Patreon or GoFundMe links on forums and servers? Why not?

> Can we post anything we want on HN? How about spamming Patreon or GoFundMe links on forums and servers? Why not?

You are free to put a gofundme link on your profile page on HN. People who make interesting, thought provoking, constructive comments and avoid sophistic arguments and strawmen certainly have their profile page checked by other users who want to follow the commenter on other plateforms.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by briandear »

djxfade wrote: post #55
dgellow wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you’re YouTube

Media streaming services "only" pay a 15% fee on IAP

How much are credit card fees? Chargebacks? Fraud? Server costs to host your app and updates? The shopping cart/private infrastructure? You actually get some value from those percentages, but few people actually run the numbers.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by likeclockwork »

rewq4321 wrote: post #61

From the replies (@mysl_co): > Hey Matt, When I open the Help Center from the app, I can get guidance about upgrading to one of your paid plans. If I tap on “Plans” as seen the screenshot, the app opens Safari and shows the plans. This is a violation according to App Store Review Guidelines. > Here is the relevant term that your app violated: 3.1.3(a) Apps may allow a user to access previously purchased content or co…

It's not even "content". They're a publishing platform.

Re: WordPressiOS Locked by App Store

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Post by TakawaraJu »

Razengan wrote: post #65

What should be the price of accessing a billion users? Does any platform allow anyone to charge its users without going through the platform? Nevermind charging, does -any- platform allow anyone to interact with its users at all without adhering to the platform's terms and conditions? Can we post anything we want on HN? How about spamming Patreon or GoFundMe links on forums and servers? Why not?

> What should be the price of accessing a billion users?

The $99 developers licence seems like a pretty fair price for access.

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