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Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests

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Re: Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests

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It's never "the work of a long-preparing revolutionnary crowd" revolution, but always a "latest fashionable technology" revolution. Tech propaganda at its best.

Are you similarly critical of discussions about how ubiquitous camera phones have changed the civil rights movement?

Technology is only a tool, and is only as good as what people actually do with it. But it can be a crucial tool that changes everything.

Re: Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests

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post #6
post #2

Very curious how Telegram plans to monetize the app eventually given their crypto thing didn't work out.

Compared to WhatsApp, they do have access to all messages from every person (except for the few people using secret chats) and group so I'd not be very surprised if they started to mine that data somehow if they really want the money.

Compared to WhatsApp that is owned by a massive megacorp that bought it for over $10bn and that has already tried to start mining metadata from it I would say Telegram still has its advantages.

(FWIW: I prefer Signal.)

Re: Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests

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post #5

Considering that the app has been created by Russians (albeit ones who claim to oppose the current government of Russia), and it is popular mostly in countries that surround Russia, this is not surprising at all that it's the default choice for young people in Belarus. Telegram is a strong indicator of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_world these days.

You forget to mention the desktop and mobile apps both are open source, so anyone can build their own network.

Re: Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests

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post #31
post #10

It's never "the work of a long-preparing revolutionnary crowd" revolution, but always a "latest fashionable technology" revolution. Tech propaganda at its best.

Are you similarly critical of discussions about how ubiquitous camera phones have changed the civil rights movement? Technology is only a tool, and is only as good as what people actually do with it. But it can be a crucial tool that changes everything.

I don't think so.

Calling it "{arbitrary brand} revolution", when pretty much every messaging platform is indistinguishable feels crass and tacky. The brand isn't the one in the trenches making the sacrifices.

It could be called a smart phone revolution instead. A revolution of the people.

Re: Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests

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post #9

Similar thing is happening in the States with different social media platforms (FB, Reddit until recently) which have empowered political views not reguarded as “good” by the mainstream media, but you don’t see congratulatory articles about this phenomenon, with FB even seen as Satan itself when it comes to politics.

Because right-wing nationalism is not a good thing.

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Re: Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests

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post #32
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compared to WhatsApp, they do have access to all messages from every person (except for the few people using secret chats) and group so I'd not be very surprised if they started to mine that data somehow if they really want the money.

Compared to WhatsApp that is owned by a massive megacorp that bought it for over $10bn and that has already tried to start mining metadata from it I would say Telegram still has its advantages. (FWIW: I prefer Signal.)

What is the advantage when Telegram has less money and more data?

Re: Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests

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post #9

Similar thing is happening in the States with different social media platforms (FB, Reddit until recently) which have empowered political views not reguarded as “good” by the mainstream media, but you don’t see congratulatory articles about this phenomenon, with FB even seen as Satan itself when it comes to politics.

CIA encourages lots of friendly articles about social disruptions they've planned and funded. It seems likely they didn't plan BLM and related recent American protests, but definitely they are behind anything going on in Belarus.

You should be on thorazine.

Re: Telegram messaging app proves crucial to Belarus protests

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post #35
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you similarly critical of discussions about how ubiquitous camera phones have changed the civil rights movement? Technology is only a tool, and is only as good as what people actually do with it. But it can be a crucial tool that changes everything.

I don't think so. Calling it "{arbitrary brand} revolution", when pretty much every messaging platform is indistinguishable feels crass and tacky. The brand isn't the one in the trenches making the sacrifices. It could be called a smart phone revolution instead. A revolution of the people.

In defense of the journalist, it's a direct quote from a protester who is presumably in the trenches making the sacrifices.
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