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We’re talking about Reddit right?
Hmm, seems strange.. seems easier to start another one. I mean we have a wide range of forum sites.
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People rarely speak passionately about things they're reasonably happy with.
There are regular surveys that cover how many people are in unions and the overall perception of unions. The numbers back up the idea that unions are dying and people don't think highly of them.
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Many governments have been built in ways to try to mitigate this. For example, in the US we have the electoral college and the Senate (where each state has an equal vote). Not saying I support the electoral college (I don't), but at least there's some thought behind it... Another example is the parliamentary system where each party gets some type of representation in the government and where absolute majorities are r…
not sure those safeguards are working effectively in the US.
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> Isn't that democracy everywhere though? And it's still better than any of the alternatives by a significant margin. Yes it is. Which is fine for something like a country where I don't have any hope of negotiating with the government individually, and where I don't have any choice in which country I'm part of. But I'm not sure it's what I want for my job , where I can already negotiate directly with my employer, and…
I dont think thats the case at all. I am not sure what qualifies as a minority, but the union where I work has been instrumental in ensuring that disabled employees have access to tools they need to do their job and the support they need. They help when restructuring brings redundancies, they negotiate retraining packages for people etc. You have fallen into the Us v Them trap that benefits employers. Your employer d…
Accommodating disabled employees is a majority view. The majority of people agree with it. As we said, unions are democratic so how did this action get implemented if it wasn’t a majority view? The problem is when you’re in a minority view.
> Your employer does not see you as significantly different to any other employee
And the union doesn’t see me as significantly different to any other member. Just another infinitely small vote they can disregard if they want. What’s the difference? At least there's some impact on my employer if I quit. There's none to a union!
> You have more in common with the other employees
Until you don’t. Like a more senior workforce voting for pay based on seniority when you’re younger.
> Consider it this way, if you died on the way into work tomorrow, your colleagues would mourn and miss you, your employer would be typing up the job post whilst wondering if they could get someone cheaper this time.
I don’t need people to mourn and miss me - I need good pay and conditions.
> I genuinely think you have some serious misunderstandings about what a union can and does do for its members.
I disagree so I must just be mistaken rather than genuinely having a different opinion?
> I don't know of one union that would prevent you from negotiating your own contract or terms and conditions.
Many unions agree union rates which can only be negotiated by the union and the employer. You as an individual get locked out. Not all unions do... but when it becomes the majority view...
> In the US you dont like unions
I’m British. One of the very worst things about unions here is most of them fund one particular political party! That alone is crazy to me. I think many many people would find it extremely offensive to be funding that party.
I don’t want to get involved in it.
I’m sure unions are in some cases great for individuals, just like some employers are great for individuals. But I don’t think they’re really any more benevolent. Both are looking out for their own overall interests and I’m the little guy and if I want what they don’t I’m stuck.
Given that, why get a union involved? Why do I want to negotiate with two sometimes-less-than-benevolent masters rather than one?
Can you understand I may disagree rather than just insisting I’m ignorant?
For all the ire on this site about the likes of Google, Apple, etc. screwing over the small company with their 30% app store fee, why isn't there even more outrage over the founders and startups who screw over their even more deserving-of-help employees? You know, the employees who get subjected to unregulated dilution, tyrannical bosses, unreasonable hours and unclear compensation for trading off the prime years of…
Oh gonna need a throwaway for this one. I had an exit interview where the founder told me their endgame was to destroy the value of the company to buyback the equity they sold to investors. I've never been more insulted in my life.
This is in response to someone saying we need to look out for each other. Our fellow devs and employees.
Y'all need to stop being so nice. Your founder isn't. You need to stop trying to play fair, your founder isn't. You need to put the people you work with on a higher level than your founder and get over this appeal to authority.
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People rarely speak passionately about things they're reasonably happy with.
There are regular surveys that cover how many people are in unions and the overall perception of unions. The numbers back up the idea that unions are dying and people don't think highly of them.
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So in summary you are saying it makes no sense to be an employee at a startup. There's no upside except for "lottery winners".
I've seen a ton of this on HN for the past couple of years, "Go work for FAANG, startups are worthless." As someone who has started a company, gotten it funded, and would like to hire high quality engineers, this is deeply disheartening. I've tried to hire a few people, offering them market rate or close to it for base salary (_very_ rough ballpark 150-200K for 2-5y experience) and a decent chunk of equity (highly va…
Those aren't the only 2 options in our industry. There's tons of companies who are profitable from day 1 (they sell a product or service) and who pay developers market rate or better.
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So in summary you are saying it makes no sense to be an employee at a startup. There's no upside except for "lottery winners".
I've seen a ton of this on HN for the past couple of years, "Go work for FAANG, startups are worthless." As someone who has started a company, gotten it funded, and would like to hire high quality engineers, this is deeply disheartening. I've tried to hire a few people, offering them market rate or close to it for base salary (_very_ rough ballpark 150-200K for 2-5y experience) and a decent chunk of equity (highly va…
* Options should not have a 3 month expiration after a person leaves the company. Anything vested should be exercisable 10 years after they were granted no matter what.
* Give people a starting bonus for early exercise
* Allow sales of exercised shares on secondary markets, or guarantee in writing X shares will be purchasable by your investor pool so some of the equity could be gained
While your story might be great and fair, there are far too many stories of useless stock options in the world for many people to take a huge risk like this. Between that and the average age of companies going public trending up, it feels like a bad trade off. Stock Options don't pay mortgages.
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I've seen a ton of this on HN for the past couple of years, "Go work for FAANG, startups are worthless." As someone who has started a company, gotten it funded, and would like to hire high quality engineers, this is deeply disheartening. I've tried to hire a few people, offering them market rate or close to it for base salary (_very_ rough ballpark 150-200K for 2-5y experience) and a decent chunk of equity (highly va…
Do you really need top notch people? Or do you just want them? Start lowering your expectations.
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I would love (seriously) to hear an example of a union that negotiates pay for its members but individuals successfully get additional raises or bonuses on top of that (not just for doing additional work). Teachers, pilots, public sector employees, all have pay contractually set. If you're a high school teacher and you ask your Principal or Vice Principal for a raise out of band you'll get laughed out of the room.
SAG. The NFL Players Union. Just two examples.