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>If a school's endowment had the same return and volatility of the S&P 500, that would be quite disturbing. Why? I understand why this is the case for smaller investors like individuals, but for a school endowment isn't the sheer size of the endowment and the theoretically near infinite investment time horizon part of the risk management? Some years or even some decades it will be down, but they aren't investing with…
Cash flow. Endowments are used to fund operating expenses. At all but the richest institutions, you need to think of the endowment more like the retirement fund of a retiree . You can't just not pay your faculty / demand 50% more tuition / defer fixing a roof leak for a few months just because you were down in Q2, even if you expect to be back up in Q1 of the next year.
University Endowment Sued for Under performing the S&P 500
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Re: University Endowment Sued for Under performing the S&P 500
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I never understood it before, but I’m on the board of a small private college, and I finally understand that actually to balance the budget each year they need the revenue from tuition, annual gifts, AND a 4-5% distribution from their endowment. To be competitive, a school has to maximize their revenue, and that includes all sources. Then they have to spend it all each year.
Interesting. Do you have any insight as to why college expenses are so high, and continuing to skyrocket? Tuition at private colleges in the US is typically around $50,000-60,000 a year, exclusive of room and board. This seems absurd to me. And yet apparently it's not even enough to cover expenses. Where is the money going?
When people pay extra to go to a school with a student-faculty ratio of 12 instead of 15, the labor cost is going up by about 20% (you need both more faculty and more support staff for those faculty). Does a 20% reduction in the number of people in a classroom allow the teacher to produce a 20% better education in the remaining students? Probably not. Especially for large intro lectures where there is little meaningful interaction between an individual student and the faculty and the lectures are generally recorded already (even pre-covid), you could easily distribute the costs over thousands of students instead of dozens without lowering quality.
While the value of small class sizes would be critically evaluated if people were paying for them on the spot and out of pocket, subsidized debt financing allows for the price to grow quickly - a person with no money who can take out a 100k student loan can now afford to go to a 25k school, and the person who could afford that 25k school can now afford to go to a 50k school, and suddenly the person with no money needs 200k to get the same education. The same happens with medicine and real estate and any other market where conventional wisdom is that you should get as much as you can afford and what you can afford is not limited by the amount of money you actually have.
Once people stop viewing class size or tuition price as useful proxies for education quality, the rapid tuition price inflation will stop and the labor costs will go down dramatically.
Re: University Endowment Sued for Under performing the S&P 500
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Cash flow. Endowments are used to fund operating expenses. At all but the richest institutions, you need to think of the endowment more like the retirement fund of a retiree . You can't just not pay your faculty / demand 50% more tuition / defer fixing a roof leak for a few months just because you were down in Q2, even if you expect to be back up in Q1 of the next year.
If you expect to have the money at a future date and you can secure a low interest rate, it makes much more sense to fund operating expenses with debt than lowering future returns. Certainly for the past decade a large institutional investor with significant assets like a university would have no issue securing an extremely low interest rate.
1. Almost all colleges and universities use debt to finance capital projects.
2. At least some endowment distribution is tied to restricted gifts.
Re: University Endowment Sued for Under performing the S&P 500
#74Beating the S&P on a return basis is totally irrelevant. Almost any diversified portfolio will have a lower absolute return than the S&P and a higher risk-adjusted return. If a school's endowment had the same return and volatility of the S&P 500, that would be quite disturbing. An endowment should be diversified across asset classes (metals, real estate, equities, bonds) and strategies (PE, hedge funds, VC, etc) and…
No, return is the whole point of investing. If it wasn’t something anyone cared about, you’d be better off holding a stack of federal reserve notes instead and spending some on your favorite desert because no one cares about the return including the people suing the university endowment. Finance people have such a funny way of using theoretical calculations to confuse themselves out of profits.
The reason for investing is to produce the highest returns within a predefined period of time.
Over 30 years, an endowment that makes 2% higher returns than another endowment will have roughly TWICE as much money as them. That 2% is huge!
You don’t need to be a Katherine Wood to do this. One way to consistently outperform is to pick high performance stocks and avoid (or short/buy puts on) low performance stocks. Try for a moment picking which of these are the better to invest in? Amazon Vs. EBay, SalesForce vs. Oracle, NVidia or AMD vs Intel, Tesla vs Toyota, IBM vs any modern tech company. As a stock picker, you only need to be right 51% of the time to beat the market so if you got 3/5 of the above right, congrats you might be smarter than a university endowment manager. You don’t need to read a 10K or take a finance exam to know that Amazon is going to crush EBay, Salesforce is going to skip along past Oracle, Tesla is going to blow past Toyota, and IBM is going to underperform against any tech index. It’s been that way in the past and barring an act of God or congress, it’s going to continue being that way. Again, you only need to be right 51% of the time to beat an index.
Maybe you don’t have a tech background. Maybe you have a medical background and can pick biotechs. Or maybe you have a grandson or granddaughter. They should be able to pick 2 out of 3 of these out easily: Snapchat vs Instagram (Facebook), Chipotle vs McDonald’s, Netflix Vs. Redbox. Have I made my point yet that making a high return isn’t as complex as finance people want non-finance people to think it is?
Okay but what if your stock picking stills suck? Or after 5 years of stockpicking, you lose your edge but still want to keep your cozy job. What can you do? If you know how to wield options, you can create a synthetic position on a commonly traded index like SPY(S&P500) or QQQ(NASDAQ 100). Hopefully you picked QQQ instead because it has more tech companies and Tesla while SPY has more COVID-impacted companies and will have to purchase Tesla soon. That would’ve earned you a full 32 basis points (32%) more and will continue in the near term to earn you more —- but maybe you didn’t pick it. You can create a synthetic position on your favorite index benchmark with 2year ITM LEAPs by selling a put and buying a call at the same strike. Doing this only deploys 15% of your capital while having the same effect as deploying 100% of your capital on that index. This means you can use all that extra cash sloshing around in your account to buy something that is highly liquid, is low risk, and appreciates or pays a dividend. Bond ETFs such as the ones by Vanguard fit the bill here nicely. And boom, you’re out performing the benchmark by 1%, 2%, or 3%, depending on the bond duration. Also you can sell your usefulness to the university by letting them know that their portfolio has a lower volatility than the index due to the bonds going up if the stock index options go down which steadies the ship.
Re: University Endowment Sued for Under performing the S&P 500
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Harvey Mudd? 300M at a small college is actually a quite large endowment, and HMC is tiny even by small college standards. The institution I work with has less than 100M and is on the larger side of small. If we had 300M and a faculty/facilities layout built for ~700 instead of ~3000 then life would be completely different. I agree with you in general -- both that the active management is dumb and also the most proba…
Yeah, but it seems like any sort of “permanent fund” where the timeline is infinite should be doing really aggressive, long-term, illiquid stuff, right? Investing like a 22 year old. And then any liquidity needs you need for annual distributions you handle via loans. I feel like I could make an investment product where I pay you 4% of whatever you invest, per year, forever... but you can never get your original inves…
It seems that you have heard about the "four percent rule", but probably have not needed to actually look up the details. It is from something called the Trinity study (also see Bengen and recent Wade Pfau) and there are important details about it:
> The 4% refers to the portion of the portfolio withdrawn during the first year; it is assumed that the portion withdrawn in subsequent years will increase with the consumer price index* (CPI) to keep pace with the cost of living.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity_study
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Bengen
Further it is/was focused only on thirty-year retirement time horizons, not the infinite-horizons of perpetual institutions. It is probably not even appropriate for the 'retire early' (FIRE) movement that is somewhat popular in recent years:
* https://www.pwlcapital.com/the-4-rule-for-retirement-the-tri...