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Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by erikrothoff » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 10:19 AM UTC

chrismorgan wrote: post #8

I’m curious: why is this using RSS? RSS is uniformly technically inferior to Atom, and all feed reader apps that I know of support Atom, and libraries are available for both (some RSS-only, some Atom-only, some general). The only place I’d ever use RSS now is podcast feeds, because podcast feeds haven’t caught up up with 2007 yet.

Most likely: RSS has better brand recognition than Atom feeds. There’s probably not a single RSS reader that doesn’t support Atom too.

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by phre4k » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 10:22 AM UTC

I just love that Asian developers finally 'discovered' the English speaking FOSS community.

A lot of the software I use and contribute to has gained many contributors from China, Singapore and Japan through the last 1-2 years.

It really warms my heart to see that FOSS knows less and less borders :)

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by avian » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 10:42 AM UTC

erikrothoff wrote: post #11

chrismorgan wrote: post #8

I’m curious: why is this using RSS? RSS is uniformly technically inferior to Atom, and all feed reader apps that I know of support Atom, and libraries are available for both (some RSS-only, some Atom-only, some general). The only place I’d ever use RSS now is podcast feeds, because podcast feeds haven’t caught up up with 2007 yet.

Most likely: RSS has better brand recognition than Atom feeds. There’s probably not a single RSS reader that doesn’t support Atom too.

RSS is basically a synonym for Atom at this point.

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by onli » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 10:48 AM UTC

chrismorgan wrote: post #8

I’m curious: why is this using RSS? RSS is uniformly technically inferior to Atom, and all feed reader apps that I know of support Atom, and libraries are available for both (some RSS-only, some Atom-only, some general). The only place I’d ever use RSS now is podcast feeds, because podcast feeds haven’t caught up up with 2007 yet.

There is no reason to use Atom. RSS has in practice some specifics like content:encoded and description that are strange at first look, but by now are solved in every reader. So why not just use the standard that works?

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by mindfulhack » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 11:16 AM UTC

phre4k wrote: post #12

I just love that Asian developers finally 'discovered' the English speaking FOSS community. A lot of the software I use and contribute to has gained many contributors from China, Singapore and Japan through the last 1-2 years. It really warms my heart to see that FOSS knows less and less borders :)

It especially does because people think that being against 'Chinese apps' like TikTok is 'sinophobia', when really we love Chinese people it's just the government we don't trust. So it really does makes it special to see those Chinese characters in that README. I want to see more of that.

But I also immediately feel concern. I hope this Shanghai developer is not targeted, bullied, or persecuted in any way like having their money seized.

Damn. Just donated to their PayPal because I feel so encouraged by it.

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by ddorian43 » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 11:18 AM UTC

mindfulhack wrote: post #15

phre4k wrote: post #12

I just love that Asian developers finally 'discovered' the English speaking FOSS community. A lot of the software I use and contribute to has gained many contributors from China, Singapore and Japan through the last 1-2 years. It really warms my heart to see that FOSS knows less and less borders :)

It especially does because people think that being against 'Chinese apps' like TikTok is 'sinophobia', when really we love Chinese people it's just the government we don't trust. So it really does makes it special to see those Chinese characters in that README. I want to see more of that. But I also immediately feel concern. I hope this Shanghai developer is not targeted, bullied, or persecuted in any way like having…

I always see this, we love the people but not the government.

Is there a case where we hate the people ? Are people as a collective harmless.l ?

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by bmn__ » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 11:31 AM UTC

onli wrote: post #14

chrismorgan wrote: post #8

I’m curious: why is this using RSS? RSS is uniformly technically inferior to Atom, and all feed reader apps that I know of support Atom, and libraries are available for both (some RSS-only, some Atom-only, some general). The only place I’d ever use RSS now is podcast feeds, because podcast feeds haven’t caught up up with 2007 yet.

There is no reason to use Atom. RSS has in practice some specifics like content:encoded and description that are strange at first look, but by now are solved in every reader. So why not just use the standard that works?

As someone who has done this: it's not solved in every reader, and the standards do not work.

Atom is interoperable and extensible and great care was taken during design and implementation testing to achieve these goals.

RSS, OTOH, is garbage on fire ruined by one man's ego.

https://web.archive.org/web/2004/http://diveintomark.org/arc...

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by gilrain » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 11:32 AM UTC

rozab wrote: post #9

I have genuinely found that open source projects by people with anime girls as their profile pic tend to be excellent

Those may be correlated with a lack of family and, thus, more free time for personal projects. Not that one outgrows an appreciation of anime once married, but that the tendency toward cute girl avatars probably decreases.

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by edhelas » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 11:49 AM UTC

chrismorgan wrote: post #8

I’m curious: why is this using RSS? RSS is uniformly technically inferior to Atom, and all feed reader apps that I know of support Atom, and libraries are available for both (some RSS-only, some Atom-only, some general). The only place I’d ever use RSS now is podcast feeds, because podcast feeds haven’t caught up up with 2007 yet.

Big +1 on that one, let's forget RSS and move to Atom :)

Re: RSSHub: Everything Is RSSible

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Post by rawfan » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 11:53 AM UTC

phre4k wrote: post #12

I just love that Asian developers finally 'discovered' the English speaking FOSS community. A lot of the software I use and contribute to has gained many contributors from China, Singapore and Japan through the last 1-2 years. It really warms my heart to see that FOSS knows less and less borders :)

Me, too. Seafile is another good example. Gogs was great nbut the sbdfl went awol too often. Its fork Gitea still has many Chinese devs, though and is one of my favorite projects with Asian roots.