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Re: App stores, trust and anti-trust

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Post by tempsy » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 1:47 AM UTC

azinman2 wrote: post #88

tempsy wrote: post #72

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yes so have a lot of tech stocks - i’m obviously talking about a normal year - not one where the Fed prints $3T in a few months and creates the first stock bubble to happen in a recession lol

Except profits re up for all the big tech as people buy computers for Zoom U, working from home, etc. Amazon got a huge cut of commerce generally because it’s delivered during shelter-in-place, and Netflix became the thing to do when everything else is canceled. In this environment, it’s clear that people are fleeing to safety and these are the only companies growing... plus they’re known brand names. I don’t think i…

ok i don’t need to explain to anyone how the Fed flooding $3-4T into the economy went mostly to propping up asset prices.

Re: App stores, trust and anti-trust

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Post by simion314 » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 7:23 AM UTC

alex_t wrote: post #89

simion314 wrote: post #84

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Netflix or Epic do not benefit of Apple Store brand, my bank does not put their app in Google or Apple sore because they hope to get on "top apps" , they put their app there because they have no choice, the users are there and they want an app. If you think the Apple Sore brand or "top apps" is important then have extra options (like web hosting). So I might not want my app to be promoted, I just want my users to be…

yes, i am putting all the developer on the app store on the same level, because coding into law the distinction that it's so obvious for you is not going to be easy. at what point "randomgamecompany" became so big to be promoted to "i dont need to pay for the app store anymore." Laws are not perfect, nobody should work for free.

It is not about the law, is about your attitude, you are treating all applications like all are something a developer put together to make some quick money profiting of Apple market.

Also I don't believe Apple is incapable of creating more fair rules(maybe you can't come up with this rules but Apple has the money to spend on smart people to work a few months on this) they don't want to do it.

Re: App stores, trust and anti-trust

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Post by simion314 » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 7:29 AM UTC

scarface74 wrote: post #87

simion314 wrote: post #85

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>If I get kicked off of Epic’s platform. Where do I go? Steam, GOG, Windows Store, itch.io put your app on mega/GDrive,Dropbox and share the link on Facebook and Twitter should I continue ?

I guess I should be more specific. If I get kicked off of Fortnite, can I play in Fortnite’s sandbox? Can I buy virtual coins to use in Fortnite from a third party? Why does Epic get to be the only company that can sell virtual currency in Fortnite? What if instead of buying apps with money, Apple made everyone by “Apple points” to buy things on the App Store like MS use to do?

>I guess I should be more specific. If I get kicked off of Fortnite, can I play in Fortnite’s sandbox?

There are more then 1 alternatives to Fortnite but I can't name them. This is a bad example, you compare 1 free game with a store. Stay on topic and let/s compare stores like Google Play, Steam, GOG etc. Is Steam taking 30% if you buy some skin in a game? Is GOG doing that? Are this stores blocking you showing a text with a link to your website purchase page?

Re: App stores, trust and anti-trust

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Post by ksec » Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 10:01 AM UTC

tempsy wrote: post #7

I don't know why anyone reads Ben Evans - he's a sycophant for big tech who seems to lack the ability to objectively reason about monopoly power.

Well First That is not what he said.

Second, over the years every time I sort of disagree with him on any issues I would later learn I was wrong. So the lesson is he knows a lot more than I do, and often well researched on the topic. It is better to sit down and think what he wrote rather than outright dismissive of it.

I do wish he could host some sort of AMA.