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Post by ineedasername »

mlindner wrote: post #678
ineedasername wrote: post #213

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From the article, it seems like things have gradually become more & more restrictive though. My interpretation is that Apple is gradually shifting macOS to the same application distribution model as iOS: Complete walled garden, attempts to bypass are against ToS, actively closed off with every update, and warranty-breaking. However my impression is also that it's mostly non Mac users who are concerned with this, so i…

> From the article, it seems like things have gradually become more & more restrictive though. My interpretation is that Apple is gradually shifting macOS to the same application distribution model as iOS: Complete walled garden, attempts to bypass are against ToS, actively closed off with every update, and warranty-breaking. Nothing has really changed in this article though. You can still run software just as before…

It's being made more difficult. Increasingly technically more technical savvy is required. At the same time that apple increasingly pushed their app store on macOS. The fact that at this point in time savvy users can still run arbitrary software doesn't negate a general trends that might be moving away from that direction.

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Post by 40four »

Andrex wrote: post #623
40four wrote: post #348

Man, I really love my Macbook pro. Such a nice piece of hardware, and the OS is a joy to use. But the more and more I learn about about their business practices, the more I wonder if they are really in line with my own values, and the more I think about how much benefit I really gain from the OS. Probably not as much as I used to think. I'm starting to realize something. I'm almost certain I would be just as happy wi…

I cannot recommend elementary OS enough, especially for those coming from macOS.

I've been interested to try it out, but I've never hated Ubuntu desktop as much as some seem to, so I've never gotten up the motivation up to give it a go. My boss is very adamant about Linux Mint, and I tried one if his installations before, but I guess I just don't care enough about the desktop experience to make it worth it. Give me a terminal, a text editor, and a browser and I'm happy :)

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Post by waheoo »

_qulr wrote: post #567
waheoo wrote: post #285

Why do so many in tech buy into a walled garden and then bitch about it later? I could say whinge but it doesn't quite convey what I'm seeing here.

The problem is that we didn't buy into a walled garden. Mac OS X was an open platform from 2000 until 2012, when Gatekeeper was added, ostensibly for security. It's very difficult if you've invested in a platform for many years, and then the platform slowly transforms into something different.

Its 2020.

Apple has been hostile to openness since inception, see: right to repair or basically any Louis Rossman video on YouTube.

Not to mention years of news stories showing how little apple cares for developers or individuals.

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Post by tangjurine »

LocalH wrote: post #617
pjmlp wrote: post #571

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Outrageous is the entitlement of the current generations for not paying for their tools. Many of us used to pay for every single piece of software that we had to run on top of our already expensive computer around 2000 euros on today's money.

You sound like the people against student loan reform because “I had to pay mine back, why shouldn’t they”. That’s peak entitlement, demanding others suffer because you did.

Peak privilege, maybe?

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Post by thunkpad »

raxxorrax wrote: post #406
diminish wrote: post #377

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as an ex-apple employee and long time developer, glad people start to see apple is an open source foo creating prisons of software to lure the obsessive brand fanatics and get a fee selling them as users to the other parties. - in apple tech, the users are volunteer products where servicing them gets a myriad of monetization, notarization etc. - hope open source starts to ignore apple platforms as a target at some po…

I would never develop against an OS like that. Far too many security risks. MacOS still has The level of rationalization of these lock in practices is just sad to be honest, fully neglecting how software becomes more accessible. Even signed apps have been victims of malware attacks and I do think the check is primarily to ensure the developer has paid their Apple tax. It isn't that high, but I don't think I want to s…

If you're developing in the right sector, MacOS has a market that's selected to be lucrative.

I don't think that's a particularly good thing, but it does explain how <10% market share can make such a big splash. Especially for more casual projects, IMO.

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Post by fomine3 »

pjmlp wrote: post #698
simion314 wrote: post #602

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your perspective is limited IMO, for example you have small tools like a save cleaner utility for The Sims3 , some person made this tool in Java in his free time and shared it for free with the community, why should this dev pay Apple. There are people that make Visual novels,text based games and other indie stuff(without using Apple tools most are Python,Java or Web tech) for free or a few bucks, I think they would…

Before Java was a thing, that utility would have been written in Turbo Pascal, Quick Basic, Visual Basic, C, C++ compiler, none of them available for free. At minimum one would need the Shareware or PD disks tax to get hold of some similar compiler.

It's not mandatory tool so not a "tax".

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Post by fomine3 »

beagle3 wrote: post #497
withinboredom wrote: post #421

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> But you can’t deny they made (and in many ways, still do) good UNIX machines. If you mean the hardware, it's OK I guess. It still lacks basic computer features like PXE booting (unless you count the proprietary "netboot"). You can't really install much on it or use it for anything but MacOS, which really isn't that great, IMHO. For the same cost as a MacBook, I got a really nice PC laptop with double the specs that…

Which model is that? It used to be that way up until 5 years ago or so in my experience, but it changed to be “comparable specs with comparable price” - except that the options from Apple are very limited.

Lower spec model is comparable price but higher spec model or CTO option is still expensive. (iMac 27 is exceptional for the display)

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Post by necovek »

white-flame wrote: post #10

The fact that the standard model of computing is that applications are opaque machine code blobs that can access everything in your user permission space is the core problem in privacy and malware. Applications should see nothing but their executable jail, and whatever was intentionally allowed to them by the user (eg, Open file dialog giving the application an opaque file handle, etc, not carte blanche access to the…

You get that with "snaps" on Ubuntu (and I imagine flatpak too).
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